Let's be real about gaming this gen.

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Midnight Suns was innovative and AAA, there has never been a game like that made before but a lot of cats won’t even look at it because “ew cards”

I didn't get it because of my lack of caring for comics. Firaxis needs to stop bullshytting and give me my Civ 7. However, they've randomly started to update 6 again so I've been eating with that. :eat:
 

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I didn't get it because of my lack of caring for comics. Firaxis needs to stop bullshytting and give me my Civ 7. However, they've randomly started to update 6 again so I've been eating with that. :eat:

I feel like one day you are going to play it and say “damn, I should have tried this earlier”
 

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I think people have to be more open to trying different things than just staying in your lane. Back when I was growing up, I was content to eat with just Nintendo and Square but as I've gotten older, I've expanded my horizons a bit. The younger me would have never touched a Vampire Survivors or a Hades, in reference to roguelikes for example. Every game can't be AAA and once in a while, you'll find a gem of a game that has solid gameplay under an exterior that isn't the prettiest on the block. There is something out there for you to discover and enjoy.
nikka I play everything rpgs, fighters, shooters, hentai p*ssy games, open world, I’ll keep discovering I guess….
 

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good thing I havent bothered with the ps5
 
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Midnight Suns was innovative and AAA, there has never been a game like that made before but a lot of cats won’t even look at it because “ew cards”
People say it's like XCOM, which isn't new...

Now maybe they are wrong but that's what I've read.
 

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People say it's like XCOM, which isn't new...

Now maybe they are wrong but that's what I've read.

Its not like Xcom though, you can tell its made by the same company because of certain features but its a completely different genre. X-com is a tactical shooter with huge maps, this is an arena based combat game that utilizes cards with different skills
 

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What were the last big innovations in gaming last gen?
I can think of:

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Battle Royale games.

I'm assuming that was only possible through computing and memory upgrades.

We're at a level of diminished returns. Playing games now is an amazing feat but it's tough to appreciate how good it really is
 

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What were the last big innovations in gaming last gen?
I can think of:

quick resume
Game Pass
Battle Royale games.

I'm assuming that was only possible through computing and memory upgrades.

We're at a level of diminished returns. Playing games now is an amazing feat but it's tough to appreciate how good it really is


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60FPS standard
 

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Back in the 360 era, it was E3 time and they were hyping new consoles and I asked, what were we getting? My friend on Live said, "aren't you ready for new hardware?" And I was like, WTF does that mean? Prettier graphics? And he said, new consoles. Any question I had was just met with, "it'll be new" and I just let it drop.

But I always ask, aside from graphics, what do you get when you get a new gen these days. From Genesis to 64 to Xbox, I see the upgrades, the power, the control, connectivity, NEW ideas, etc. But after 360 and beyond, it's always graphics, graphics, graphix, GrAfFiXs! That's all people talk about, "look at those colors!" "wow, the water looks ace!" "Ray tracing!" "If this game is less than 60 frames then it's for faggits!"

Now I love the quick load times on PS5 and I like the frames and how smooth it looks. But what else have we gotten other than...superficial upgrades? We've had online for decades, rumble features for decades, water and light physics for decades, amazing sound for decades. Now all we seem to get is one dimensional sameness across multiple genres trying to get the same casual dollar by slowly dripping out a safe and similar experience. How many times have you read someone call Game X "an UbiSoft open world game, BUT BETTER!" or "done right!" ? Hell, people are STILL complaining that we still don't have a new GTA or a new "GTA". (think about it)

Maybe my old man yelling at the clouds is showing here but, I remember when we had droves of games coming out and people were playing them and having fun above all. Now that people have trapped themselves in the graphics box, games take way longer to make and are way more expensive on all fronts. Now we have less games and viable genres.

All in all, I think gaming peaked a while ago. Things are more stagnant than ever before. The "next big thing" is ALWAYS just around the corner in quarter 4, but it may get delayed. And then when it does come, it's been HEAVILY downgraded.

I miss fun...endless fun was nice

Graphics whores are the worst. That's why some PS2 era games are on the 2nd re release with HD graphics and slightly better physics. If you cannot innovate on gameplay, wait for virtual reality to be proficient enough to jump in that. Shinier graphics ain't the way.
 

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I’m not understanding what y’all expecting from video games, especially y’all dudes who say nothing is different except graphics
What about games like resident evil 8, skerio, returnal, control, ghost of Tsushima, ratchet and clank, call of duty, god of war, deathloop, the most recent devil may cry, need for speed/froza horizon, kingdom hearts, death stranding, destiny

Y’all really going to sit here and act like PlayStation 2 games or generations before that were better than the games we getting now, y’all need to cut it out, don’t let nostalgia cloud your minds to properly judge games
 
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How long are folks going to continue to act as if this gen didn't start in an unprecedented matter of unforeseen circumstances that had an obvious effect on everything, including multiple facets of video game development.

That has more to do with demand greatly outweighing the current supply. Granted it has been much easier to get these systems online then it was at launch. But I have never seen a PS5 or XSX available for sale at a retailer. It's one thing to say it's disappointing which I would actually agree with. Tho to say it's trash is a way over the top imo.
Both are totally true. But even w/ that, the quality aside from the superficial aspects have been a bit moot. The storylines are kinda all the same. The consolidation and uniformity of everything from controls to other aspects of games according to their genre are also to blame. We're still climbing towers and outposts in 2022 for crying out loud lol.
Don't get me wrong it's some dope shyt out there, but the majority of innovation shouldn't be w/ in the Indy market. I hate to sound like a boomer but the 2000s and an earlier part of the 2010s was peak for gaming. I don't think games this gen. are actually bad per se, they just kinda lack the spark
 

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OP is right and I’m seeing a lot of denial about it still. 3 years in and PS4’s are still getting all the major releases because the gen is that similar.
 

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I’m fine with little innovation if the end product is polished and the game design is good. The trend of seasonal content and limited timed events is what’s killing it for me. Don’t get me started on broken games on launch.

I’m a shooter fan and there’s a lack of shooters on the console that scratch my itch. The PC exclusive shooters cater more to me due to some of them being tactical and indie.

The flip side is I’ve started to dabble in games I would never played. I hated JRPGs yet I’m 60 hours in Persona 5 Royal. I’m buying a HOTAS to play Microsoft Flight Sim.
 
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