Kotaku: The console wars are over and nobody really won.

[itsyoung!!]

Imagine having all that money over your competitor and still losing and throwing up the white flag of surrender…

Whens the last time you seen a Sony tv, laptop or phone would you call that throwing up the white flag for Sony cause you act like Sony aint the main company that throws in towel on investments

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

They thought they could just spend them into submission, no creativity at all. Honestly they probably could have succeeded in that if they did it right.

 

[Leasy]

Imagine having all that money over your competitor and still losing and throwing up the white flag of surrender…

Real rap though Microsoft never gave a fukk about Xbox after 360. They was treating that shyt like Microsoft Zune or some other failed venture

 

[winb83]

They thought they could just spend them into submission, no creativity at all. Honestly they probably could have succeeded in that if they did it right.

Microsoft's current CEO never cared about any of that. He was buying assets to build value. I think everybody can see he and Hood forced Spencer and Booty to embrace their strategy that had a bigger picture.

Real rap though Microsoft never gave a fukk about Xbox after 360. They was treating that shyt like Microsoft Zune or some other failed venture

Ballmer didn't.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Xbox existed to be leveraged into living room domination rather than to beat PlayStation. As soon as they found a level of success the focus immediately shifted away from games as a focus.

When Nadella came into power it was also clear that their goal was to break away from being console dependent. They were always thinking bigger than just overtake PlayStation.

Xbox basically wanted to be everywhere. They wanted to be Netflix. A brand that isn't associated with a specific piece of hardware and exist everywhere. Them putting everything on PlayStation might be shocking to traditionalist but looking back the signs were always there. When Keystone was cancelled that was telling.

Pretty much, and thats the thing that makes me go at Sony stans.

They don't know or care about the history but consistently want to talk about the history. Xbox is only around because MS didn't want Sony encroaching on the PC space and so that they could become more of a household name. They are still "the bad guys" and will always be as long as they are trillion dollar machine.

They came into the gaming industry and disrupted the status quo, from adding ethernet ports, to online profiles, stores and dlc/microtransactions, and the XB1 was suppose to continue that trend, however they fumbled that so bad that they got bullied into axing everything that would have made the xb1 a disruptor and just tried to out Sony and Nintendo at console gaming when they are at the heart of gaming consoles They gave it a shot, and its not happening.

Fast-forward gamepass, play anywhere and then again to now and them not having beef with making a game for PS/Nintendo and it again disrupts the whole industry. This time heavily in their favor tho, MS was never trying to make money off selling hardware aka consoles.... that was never the goal. And tbh it's not the goal on Sony nor nintendo. Traditionally it was just easier to make money on the software side by having more hardware sold.
For Sony and Xbox The consoles were a way for them to push other products they created, like CD's, Blu rays, Blu ray disc...etc etc. Even back to the Nintendo CD

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Basically

Only Sony fangirls try to keep this “beef” going…

That shyt dead af.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

I find it funny that Xbox fans are now "above" console wars seeing that Xbox lost.

Oh it's about who can make more money. Funny that, because if MS was making enough from Xbox fans, they wouldn't have to release their games elsewhere.

But brehs are in here like, "nuh uh, it was the plan all along."

 

[winb83]

What's going on in the graphics card market is a text book example of why monopolies are bad. Since AMD ceded the top end graphics card market to Nvidia they've been out there showing their ass. Questionable paper launches, lying about prices, cutting back on generational improvements. The market is so screwed right now the 4080 Super I bought over a year ago has appreciated in value and is worth more than I paid for it. Not only has it appreciated it's worth almost 35% over what I paid for it.

 

[Killer Instinct]

MS was never trying to make money off selling hardware aka consoles.... that was never the goal.

 

[winb83]

That tracks. They admitted they never made money off hardware in the merger documents. It was never a priority. It was either about selling software, or subscription services, or trying to control the living room.

 

[Killer Instinct]

That tracks. They admitted they never made money off hardware in the merger documents. It was never a priority. It was either about selling software, or subscription services, or trying to control the living room.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

What Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Really Thought of the PS5 Reveal - IGN

Leaked emails have revealed Xbox boss Phil Spencer’s thoughts about PlayStation 5 back in early 2020.

www.ign.com

We have a better product than Sony has, not just on hardware but equally important on the software platform and services on top of the hardware,” Spencer wrote. “We have the ingredients of a winning plan. I felt the feedback from the BoD discussion on being too confident and maybe this will just reinforce that perception, I get the need to be humbly confident but today was a good day for us.

delusional…no company is going to invest that much R&D into producing two different console SKU’s over their competition in order to not try and outsell them

 

[winb83]

What Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Really Thought of the PS5 Reveal - IGN

Leaked emails have revealed Xbox boss Phil Spencer’s thoughts about PlayStation 5 back in early 2020.

www.ign.com

delusional…no company is going to invest that much R&D into producing two different console SKU’s over their competition in order to not try and outsell them

The business model was sell hardware at a loss and make money on software and content sales. If profitable hardware was a focus why then did they not assemble hardware they could sell for a profit?

Other companies in the space decided to do that and made hardware they never lost any money on.

If you're going to call someone delusional at least speak to their point. Making a profit on selling hardware was never a priority for Microsoft. That has jack shyt to do with out selling the competition. You could do that and still sell hardware at a loss.

 

[gurf]

The business model was sell hardware at a loss and make money on software and content sales. If profitable hardware was a focus why then did they not assemble hardware they could sell for a profit?

Other companies in the space decided to do that and made hardware they never lost any money on.

If you're going to call someone delusional at least speak to their point. Making a profit on selling hardware was never a priority for Microsoft. That has jack shyt to do with out selling the competition. You could do that and still sell hardware at a loss.

because they were competing with Playstation...

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The business model was sell hardware at a loss and make money on software and content sales. If profitable hardware was a focus why then did they not assemble hardware they could sell for a profit?

Other companies in the space decided to do that and made hardware they never lost any money on.

If you're going to call someone delusional at least speak to their point. Making a profit on selling hardware was never a priority for Microsoft. That has jack shyt to do with out selling the competition. You could do that and still sell hardware at a loss.