this was a bad song, not even speaking on the efficacy of the diss
J Fold- 7 minute Apology (redacted Kendrick Lamar dis)
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The Connoisseurs
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Cole improved throughout the years I’m not knocking his career I enjoyed many of his songs and the skills he has displayed. Does he have any project that transcended beyond rap ……. I’m not quite sure
I mean sure, it was cool. But mixtape Cole fans saw that record as a necessary evil at the time. (I remember vividly because I was a fan since The Warm Up).
Blow Up was a song that really fit perfectly with Cole dropping... But Jay was like nah. They basically made that man put out a record that would do well with women. Even on his debut album, Workout is the last song on there
I'm pretty sure Cole felt defeated after they bushed that song as his lead single low-key
This is a VAST difference from how Kendrick was handled during his debut release with Dre. Swimming Pools is something that gets made when the executive producer is truly trying to mesh the grassroots elements from an artist and amplify it to a mainstream audience. Jay-Z wasn't really fukking with Cole like that (similarly to Kanye honestly)
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No, but he's always been a rapper first and foremost. He never was trying to go beyond rap. That's why he's really in the lab for years continuing to refine and improve his lyricism.
BobbyWojak
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Cole is definitely seen as a 'must listen' artist whenever one of his albums drop even if you're not a hardcore fan.
Bruh
So why are you disagreeing, you know exactly what I’m sayingAnd the difference between Kendrick’s and Cole’s is Kendrick’s was traditional BAIT. It’s a) a verse, not a song. And b) split between two people, not aimed at one
So its fine being ‘light’. No one rates ‘ask Nas he don’t want it with Hov’ as a diss. No one rates Pusha’s ‘you don’t even write your songs’ as a diss. Those are declarations of war. They are light bc they are supposed to be light
On the contrary, Cole made an entire song, 3+ minutes, a hook, a beat switch, thru in some filler bars, then STILL kept dissing
That ain’t no ‘warning’ that’s just a weak diss track
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Let me put it like this….you put your hand on the stove and get burnt a few times you probably gon stop touching it right? Ok then.
Cole is not must listen anymore. He is THAT basic. After 10,15 years I KNOW he ain’t got shyt to say. Even tho he’s talented
Cole is now on Eminem, Wale, Big Sean status. Rappers who I know are talented, yet I have NO motivation whatsoever to listen to their music. At ALL. And i know I ain’t the only one
See me, couple hood nikkas behind stars
I heard you put a couple good nikkas behind bars (Preme!)
I might never sell that much
But you can bet your last two quarters I'll never tell that much
Picture 'Kiss not come out swingin'
It's like goin' see 50 at a show
And he don't come out singin' (C'mon!)
Yeah, you got a felony, but you ain't a predicate (Nuh-uh)
Never the King of New York, you live in Connecticut (Haha)
You don't be in the hood, you be in the woods
fukkin' with me, it's where you really gon' be for good (Ugh)
I hold the 4-5 myself (Ch-chk)
And hop out the Range on 1-4-5 myself (What up!)
This is a true fact
Since when has it become cool to get shot and not shoot back? (Never)
I did real songs with Big, no made-up shyts (Ah!)
And I don't got a problem with clout
You ain't get shot again yet
So what's your second album about? (Nothin'!)
Bunch of love songs, hundred percent pure garbage (Garbage)
Just somethin' to break up buds on
You should just sell clothes and sneakers
‘Cause outta your whole camp
Your flow's the weakest (Garbage)
I'm in the town where the young boys is clappin' (Clappin)
You runnin' around with the lieutenant and captain (Haha!)
It'll take a lifetime to see 'Kiss
You had to get shot nine times to be rich
Ngga delete your account
TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?
I walk around a little edgy already
Fake Rasta took the bait.,.now watch Kendrick get all up in his culo
This isn't reality
Let me put it like this….you put your hand on the stove and get burnt a few times you probably gon stop touching it right? Ok then.
Cole is not must listen anymore. He is THAT basic. After 10,15 years I KNOW he ain’t got shyt to say. Even tho he’s talented
Cole is now on Eminem, Wale, Big Sean status. Rappers who I know are talented, yet I have NO motivation whatsoever to listen to their music. At ALL. And i know I ain’t the only one
BobbyWojak
Superstar
Let me put it like this….you put your hand on the stove and get burnt a few times you probably gon stop touching it right? Ok then.
Cole is not must listen anymore. He is THAT basic. After 10,15 years I KNOW he ain’t got shyt to say. Even tho he’s talented
Cole is now on Eminem, Wale, Big Sean status. Rappers who I know are talented, yet I have NO motivation whatsoever to listen to their music. At ALL. And i know I ain’t the only one
Different strokes
I didn't like Cole much at all until 4 Your Eyez Only, but it says something that I had already heard all his albums. It's funny to me that people consider it his worst album.
Jada telling 50 his albums about nothing is hilariousSee me, couple hood nikkas behind stars
I heard you put a couple good nikkas behind bars (Preme!)
I might never sell that much
But you can bet your last two quarters I'll never tell that much
Picture 'Kiss not come out swingin'
It's like goin' see 50 at a show
And he don't come out singin' (C'mon!)
Yeah, you got a felony, but you ain't a predicate (Nuh-uh)
Never the King of New York, you live in Connecticut (Haha)
You don't be in the hood, you be in the woods
fukkin' with me, it's where you really gon' be for good (Ugh)
I hold the 4-5 myself (Ch-chk)
And hop out the Range on 1-4-5 myself (What up!)
This is a true fact
Since when has it become cool to get shot and not shoot back? (Never)
I did real songs with Big, no made-up shyts (Ah!)
And I don't got a problem with clout
You ain't get shot again yet
So what's your second album about? (Nothin'!)
Bunch of love songs, hundred percent pure garbage (Garbage)
Just somethin' to break up buds on
You should just sell clothes and sneakers
‘Cause outta your whole camp
Your flow's the weakest (Garbage)
I'm in the town where the young boys is clappin' (Clappin)
You runnin' around with the lieutenant and captain (Haha!)
It'll take a lifetime to see 'Kiss
You had to get shot nine times to be rich
The Off-Season 1st Week Sales: 282K
Mr Morale 1st Week Sales: 295K
For those saying... That Cole isn't a draw or must listen in hip-hop when he drops, why is he doing close to the same 1st week numbers as Kendrick after a 5 year hiatus?
Mr Morale 1st Week Sales: 295K
For those saying... That Cole isn't a draw or must listen in hip-hop when he drops, why is he doing close to the same 1st week numbers as Kendrick after a 5 year hiatus?
gtj1982
Superstar
Youtube algo fed me this video of a father and son reaction to 7 minute drill. The son was maybe in his 20s dad 50ish. But what struck me was the son only really picked up on when Cole talked about shooting and direct lines. He didn't pick up on anything else like his level of listening and understanding was bad and he just trying to get geeked up and hyped. Dad had to explain half the lyrics to him. But in that moment I understood this thread. Plus Cole dissed cacs and the grammy's so that was going to really set "hip hop heads" off.