This gen isn’t ending in two yrs breh. It’s damn near starting this yr fr.
I think I’ve come to the conclusion that exclusives don’t matter
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SymbolicOne09
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Cant use iptv and retroarch on ps5
Xbox still hasn't recovered from the "no used games" policy they tried back in 2013
It tarnished their reputation. And the lack of good exclusives compared to the PS4/5 since then hasn't made up for that.
Halo ain't as big as it was
Forza was never a huge series
Gears of War ain't what it was
As where God of War literally took a leap on popularity, the Spiderman game did well, last of us was huge, etc.
Man, I've been thinking about why everyone says the bolded. Because it's not like these games re particularly bad or anything, they just don't seem to be hitting the way they used to.
I'd say that based off my experience with Halo Infinite, it's a case of these games just playing to their established audience to the point of not appealing to newer players, but that feels like it might just be specific to me.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
They are losing players for multitude of reasons (franchise/genre fatigue, old age, competition, Changing gaming trends) and not gaining new players. Thats why eventually you have to reboot a series or find ways to modernize it. They’ve been trying with both of them to some extent (both went semi-open world, halo went F2P, etc) but those markets found other games they like more.
Halo used to be king of multiplayer shooters, now its competing with Fortnite, Apex, CoD, etc. Gears has been kind of a standard 3rd person cover shooter for its entire inception, once you get 5+ games of something you can’t expect to get new players without drastic change.
Destiny was the logical progression for Halo, they missed it.
Software
RIP Future Gohan
It's the beginning of the end of the gen. In 2 years that's 5 years. Most console gens are about 7 years. Years 0-2 early gen 3-5 mid gen 5-7 is late gen. It only feels like it's starting this year because covid delays and we're entering mid gen right now.
Well said
I'm also under the appreciation that both series never really had a genuinely "great" game again
I remember when halo 4 and halo guardians came out, they didn't really light anything on fire. As where halo 2 and halo 3 each seemed like a big phenomenon.
EDIT: wasn't destiny literally made by Bungie? Losing the creators of the franchise doesn't help either
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Eh, i dunno, i dont see new consoles dropping until late 2027 at the earliest, which means at best we’re approaching mid gen early next year
Software
RIP Future Gohan
Either way tack on an extra year to my estimate. It still doesn't change the point about Microsofts exclusives coming pretty late in this console generation
Yeah, that's how I feel about it, but I thought maybe it was more of a me thing. But I agree, you need to sit a series down for a bit for a retooling eventually, and it really makes me appreciate when studios and publishers are willing to do it.
Doom went away for a LONG time, and even went into development with a CoD style game before they came back with Doom 2016, which was a logical evolution of the series. And, I think smartly, the series seems to be on hold for a bit.
The last two God of War games were so good because they mad and effort to meaningfully split from the original series.
Uncharted seems to be relegated to remake/rerelease territory while someone figures out what to do with the series, which is good. There's not really anything unique to do with the series for now.
Yeah, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Destiny is what Bungie wanted to do after they were done with Halo, and they even snuck a teaser into ODST, but Microsoft wasn't really with it. I think Microsoft figured they'd eventually keep the talent that wanted to work on Halo when they put 343 together, and be able to keep it moving, which I believe they mostly did. It just ended up not working out the way everyone thought, I guess.
Yall take the Xbox hate too far, the original xbox was a great system.
Halo 1
Halo 2
Conker's bad fur day remake.
Superior ports of the splinter cell trilogy
Elder Scrolls morrowind
Half life 2
Doom 3
Jade empire
KOTOR 1 and 2
Forza
Ninja Gaiden
Plus the hard drive, ability to listen to your own music, and being the first console to make online multiplayer a selling factor of the console.
PlayStation is predicting a decline across the entire FY23.
In fact gaming across the board has been on a decline. It’s more likely than not that PlayStation will be down YoY as well just as they were from 2021 to 2022.
Sony Stan’s acting like inflation and a recession aren’t affecting all tech sectors.
December 2022 was PS5 biggest month ever
Ps5 october and November USA sales were up compared to last october and November. PS5 did almost 500k in Oct and it did 1.3 million in Nov 22. Last Oct Ps5 did less than 400k and last Nov it did less than a million. PS5 sales were up massively in the USA during this holiday quarter compared to the last one.
In Japan, PS5 holiday sales were up compared to last holiday.
Xbox series 2022 Holiday quarter sales were massively down in almost every major territory compared to last holiday quarter.
Your recession excuse doesn't make sense given the fact that the cheapest console(series s)sold the worst and the most expensive console(PS5) sold extremely well.
Sales aside that console was far better than just "decent". It felt like a generation ahead of the GameCube and ps2 tech wise, and introduced alot of features that are considered the standard now.
It didn't have as many games as ps2, but for a console with a relatively short life cycle, they managed to release a good amount of console exclusives in that time frame, and some of those games were among the best of the generation.
Y’all nikkas crazy
