I like Dr. Boyce but hes full of shyt sometimes
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every other group has had more direct access to resources to practice group economics, this cant be stressed enough. yvette just broke it down for you pretty well too.
people like boyce act like 5-10k can start you a viable business. meanwhile, other groups are starting their successful businesses with no less than 100k. they also tend to network to combine resources.
if it cost 400k to start a successful black grocery store in LA, how many of us know 4-5 other BM we could link up with to get it poppin>?
The truth is their both right imo. We will need everything possible to fix our problems: Entrepreneurs, Goverment intervention, education, a code of conduct,and I truly believe having at least one country in Africa get on solid footing that we can network with. Also, a whole bunch of luck and time.
BrandonBanks
Arab Money
I do agree with some of what she said, but I think Dr Anderson's Powernomics lays it out pretty well. A lot of ppl are unfamiliar with it though.
After hearing Yvette, I do get her point, but what does she and others think the solution is? Because once again, it comes off like "oh well theres nothing we can do". I do think right now we could do more than what we're doing. Not on the level of Asians but just improve on what we're doing. And yes I'm doing it before someone sarcastically asks me
BrandonBanks
Arab Money
Definitely agree
Yeah, he can be overly utopian a lot of the time, but its not as if the conditions he speaks of will ever come to fruition.
Most Black people aren't going to open up successful business, flood successful job markets with high levels of education, or invest heavily in burgeoning industries, regardless of how much he posts.
Most Black people aren't going to open up successful business, flood successful job markets with high levels of education, or invest heavily in burgeoning industries, regardless of how much he posts.
this is where i begin to lean more on watkins side. yvette basically said "
" when it came to solutions. where as, boyce understands we need more law makers, judges, bankers, accountants, etc, before we can get to a realistic discussion on reparations.
Absolutely. you can't ignore either side. Boyce is saying what needs to be done to make a change and Cornell is explaining the situation of where we all are in this country, no sugarcoating it.
@DrX thanks for posting the debate to at least spark dialogue in people who might give a shyt.
thats what it comes down too when u break it all the way down
money was just created to control, keep few in power over the masses....but the true power is physical dominance ....
they didnt create nikes because that shyt look fly, they got those shyts too keep a knee in anybody ass
All he cares about is HIS money. When Syracuse gave him the boot all of a sudden he became pro black. This clown showed his true colors stopping Tyler and Wayne's Mountain Dew sponsorship. I will NEVER let this fat hater off the hook for that shyt.
fukk Boyce Watkins
fukk Boyce Watkins
-Capitalism is not a fair game. Like you said, people HAVE TO LOSE in order for the few at the top to really win. Unless you want to redistribute the wealth which despite what they say, capitalists are not going for.
-I believe in lost generations. Many families in this country black and white have lost generations which causes generational poverty.
-Facts. The only "freedom" we have is to move about the country. That's it. Be a tourist in your own homeland. Anything else you try to do or gain can be taken from you at will by any white person or entity without consequence. We have the "freedom" to run businesses because other communities eat off our debts. 90% of black owned businesses are created to provide a lifestyle for the owner only. We aren't starting multinational corporations and taking over industries like that.
Nothing wrong with being a capitalist (I'm one) but Boyce is full of bullshyt. By definition a capitalist is ruthless, selfish, and does not generally care for the well being of others.
exactly, he doesn't factor human nature, i said it in a earlier post.....because even if u do have blacks that start a whole bunch of businesses....what makes him think theyre going to be on some black love, hire my people shyt....what if they say "fukk this black shyt" and become money, power hungry capitalist like white capitalist....its not like white business owners give a fukk about white people ....
boyce is an intelligent man, and im 100% sure hes thought about all of this, but i think
1. he need blacks too believe this so he can make money...which i have no problem with, i rather ppl get indoctrinated with positive thoughts than negative
2. he knows the situation is bleak, and he just want people to keep hope alive, and its too complex to brake it down to them without them getting confused and discouraged, so he just say fukk it and tell them its all good to keep them pacified ...
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AAGang
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Breh her solution STARTS with Boyce's position. The same shyt she's arguing against is actually whats gonna get her what she wants
We gonna need to get on code and build up our economy somewhat before we can even try to demand any reparations. shyt costs bread. Court fees and repeatedly filing, buying and building politicians to push for it, LOBBYING, etc.
Dr Claud is already trying to do what her dumb ass is whining about and she called him foolish
