I just watched Man of Steel again and I don't understand the criticisms

[MartyMcFly]

That is true, but what made Spider Man popular also harmed Spider Man's (and Marvel Comics') mythology when they stayed on the problem side and their heroes never truly overcoming them to be better People. Superman and DC comics always have the heroes overcome tremendous odds and strive to be better heroes, at least better than their early days of crime fighting.

I'll disagree with that on Spidey's part. They always have him trying to become a better person and doing the right thing. They always put him in situations where his mettle is tested in an attempt to find out if he truly is as good as he thinks he is. He's never going to overcome the everyday issues, like paying his shyt on time or trying to not miss an appointment while also having to stop a bank robbery, but anytime they put him in a moral dilemma, he passes with flying colors.

 

[Wild self]

I'll disagree with that on Spidey's part. They always have him trying to become a better person and doing the right thing. They always put him in situations where his mettle is tested in an attempt to find out if he truly is as good as he thinks he is. He's never going to overcome the everyday issues, like paying his shyt on time or trying to not miss an appointment while also having to stop a bank robbery, but anytime they put him in a moral dilemma, he passes with flying colors.

shyt like that gets redundant after a while, despite being able to relate to the reader. After 5+ decades and still not getting over financial problems. Even people in real life, after getting shytted on by bills, do something drastic (going to school, learning a trade, opening their own business) and they improve if their mindstate allows them to. That what pisses me off about Marvel is that they subliminally tell people to be content on being average and struggling, while DC is telling people subliminally telling readers to do something different and overcome those problems while striving to be better people.

 

[MartyMcFly]

shyt like that gets redundant after a while, despite being able to relate to the reader. After 5+ decades and still not getting over financial problems. Even people in real life, after getting shytted on by bills, do something drastic (going to school, learning a trade, opening their own business) and they improve if their mindstate allows them to. That what pisses me off about Marvel is that they subliminally tell people to be content on being average and struggling, while DC is telling people subliminally telling readers to do something different and overcome those problems while striving to be better people.

I think you're looking too deep into it. Marvel and DC with this new 52 reboot are always thinking of future generations reading not the cats who've been reading since the 70s or 80s or 90s. So a lot of it gets redundant but it's also needed for the lifeblood of the characters. But changes are made every now and then. Aunt may has remarried. Peter got a great job and had no prob paying his bills. He was married. Progress was made. When he comes back after superior spider man is over, we'll see what happens but most characters progress over time and a lot of times that progress is rebooted for future generations. The core of what makes Peter a compelling character tho is his normalcy. He falls and he gets back up

 

[Wild self]

I think you're looking too deep into it. Marvel and DC with this new 52 reboot are always thinking of future generations reading not the cats who've been reading since the 70s or 80s or 90s. So a lot of it gets redundant but it's also needed for the lifeblood of the characters. But changes are made every now and then. Aunt may has remarried. Peter got a great job and had no prob paying his bills. He was married. Progress was made. When he comes back after superior spider man is over, we'll see what happens but most characters progress over time and a lot of times that progress is rebooted for future generations. The core of what makes Peter a compelling character tho is his normalcy. He falls and he gets back up

If Marvel sends Peter Parker back to square one, it just reaffirm my belief that they don't want him to improve his situation, kind of like how the media don't want the average man to improve his way of thinking by harping on the problems and never on a solution.

In DC, Batman may be wealthy, but he has EVERYTHING to lose (putting his finances on the line for crime fighting). Bruce Wayne could have gone the Punisher Route or could be another Lex Luthor over his parents death, and justifiably so, but he decided to take the harder route and be a better hero and a better man. That is DC way of telling people that you have to be the better man in some dire situations and you have to keep pushing yourself beyond the expectations so that society can reflect that change. That message is not popular in today's world because people rather settle and harp about problems than to overcome them.

That is just my 2 cents.

 

[Airtrack360]

The only thing that keeps me from disliking it, is realizing that it could of been a whole lot worse.

 

[gluvnast]

Movie is BULLSHYT...

(1) Superman was born of natural birth...Both his parents were genetically designed "nerds", so how the hell is he going to defeat an army of genetically designed trained and battle tested superbeings...?

Little mistakes like this just make me hate movies and TV Shows...

(2) That love story with Lois Lane is just wack and unnecessary...How the hell is superman going to nut in a human female...? The force of his ejaculation will destroy her vagina and womb...

Do the writers even realize this...?

Thanks to the movies and TV Shows, I now HATE superman and spiderman...Them are wack swaggerless love sick superheroes...They are superheroes for little kids...

1.) Aside the keywords "natural birth vs. genetically designed" implying that one that's natural is superior that one that is generic, Superman's powers are unlimited and only limited by him. The film clearly showed him not the better fighter, especially in the match-up against Faora which exposed that very fact that you complained about. But due to the fact that his body has harnessed the sun's radiation and him adapted to Earth's surroundings makes him virtually unbeatable whereas Zod and his crew were still trying to adapt (none of there could even fly except for Zod at the end when he finally began to harness those powers completely). Long story short, Superman is naturally that more powerful. But it was addressed a couple of times about him being ill-trained. In Zod's own words, "Where did you train at? On a FARM?"

2.) I think this is a HUGE misunderstanding based upon our preconceived knowledge that Lois and Superman will be a couple. But the film never SHOWED them just falling in love. It mainly showed them having an infatuation with each other that can lead into falling in love. They only kissed once after Superman saved her (again) from getting sucked in the Phantom Zone. And even then Lois acknowledges this being somewhat forced due to the extreme situations they were in. But, dude, it's comic book lore that THEY eventually going to fall in love, but for this film in particular, Lois was the first person EVER outside of his own parents where he could be himself, hence his origins to how he began falling for her.

 

[MartyMcFly]

If Marvel sends Peter Parker back to square one, it just reaffirm my belief that they don't want him to improve his situation, kind of like how the media don't want the average man to improve his way of thinking by harping on the problems and never on a solution.

In DC, Batman may be wealthy, but he has EVERYTHING to lose (putting his finances on the line for crime fighting). Bruce Wayne could have gone the Punisher Route or could be another Lex Luthor over his parents death, and justifiably so, but he decided to take the harder route and be a better hero and a better man. That is DC way of telling people that you have to be the better man in some dire situations and you have to keep pushing yourself beyond the expectations so that society can reflect that change. That message is not popular in today's world because people rather settle and harp about problems than to overcome them.

That is just my 2 cents.

Agree to disagree man. I don't think its that deep with why they do what they do to their characters

 

[phillycavsfan]

One of the most boring comic book movies I've ever seen. The last battle between Zod and Superman was so tedious and long.

 

[Lord Beasley]

I don't get how some ppl can hate on MoS steel but praise the other corny ass superman movies. Them Christopher Reeve (RIP) movies made supes look like a pure fakkit.

 

[marcuz]

good movie

superman was a house nikka c00n that betrayed his race tho

 

[Huellz Santana]

Man of steel> any of these new Batman movies

I loved how Lois used her journalistic skills to track him down. It's funny cuz I used to always say if a superhero exsisted in our time TMZ would be on that azz
TMZ: I see u in that phone booth


Superman


Tmz: Gotcha yo azz.

1 hour later.Top story "Superman identity revealed" btw Superman shops at Walmart

i busted out laughing at work at this. ​

 

[Darts]

The film was such a great experience in the theater

But I dunno, the replay value is kinda poor. I downloaded the BR rip and the movie just seems meh now...it's weird

 

[GulfCoastGhost]

There was so much wrong with the film


Young Clark "should I have let them die"
PA Kent "yes"



Taking a fight from the empty cornfields, into main street USA
Telling people to "get inside" only for him to destroy the whole town (with people in these buildings)


I think superman inadvertently killed more people than he saved


That's NOT superman


Plus the scene when he is in cuffs and he is like
"you think you can contain me, but you can't, and fukk these cuffs"

That's NOT superman

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Pa Kent didn't say "yes"..... He said in a very conflicted tone "I don't know.. maybe" ... He was trying to talk himself into it but in reality didn't really know what the best course of action would be. All he knew in his mind was that the world was not yet ready to accept a Superman type figure. But he also knew that one day Clark was destined to become that type of figure.

See... most of these complaints reaffirm that some people need to pay closer attention before they bytch

 

[Still Benefited]

Breh, you do realize that the romance angle is pretty much key to both characters. I know a lot of dudes on here hate that for some reason but for spider man in particular, ever since the first issue, romance has been big on Peter's list of things he wants in his life. Love sick is pretty much what he does. Stan Lee has said it on numerous occasions: He created a soap opera that would have a fight breakout every once in a while. He, and a lot of other writers, have always said that Peter Parker is the best part about writing Spider-Man and key to making a good spider man story.


And as far as superman, the romance with Lois or Lana is also key to him getting a better understanding of humanity and giving him something else to fight for and something else to protect. They aren't going to be "hard on hoes" like batman because batman is a character who thrives on isolation and trying to cut off any connection that could be a weakness to his work; he doesn't want a normal life; Peter and Clark try to maintain as much of a normal life as possible

The romance angle is so important they shoulda done a better job at casting a Lois that had chemistry with Superman...you feel nothing cooking between the two no matter how many times he saves her,no matter how many times they looked into each other eyes. For one thing she looks too old as they cast a Superman who looks like a college student even though he's supposed to be 30 something...secondly Lois provides no comedic relief to even out Superman who is a absolute stiff and akward....which was cool with Chris Reeves becuz Lois was his opposite and they played well off each other.

Snappin Zods neck...why couldn't that family run away?there was plenty of room,Supe couldn't have yelled out "move yo azz"....theyd rather ALL huddle in a corner and cover up...that death seemed so forced and uncreative,id rather Supe had just beat that nikka to death after he tried to kill his moms....but nah that didn't make Superman mad enuff to kill

Clarks daddy...if he could stand there with a Tornado on top of his azz and lovingly hold his hand up and not even blink,i don't see why Clark couldn't have ran out there and jogged away without anybody being the wiser...I woulda assumed Pa Kent had some powers if I seen him standing there with a tornado on top of em smiling

Lois brings the police to Clarks house at some point while he's dressed as Superman,maybe that cop didn't put two and two together if he wasn't a local....I think they tried to give it a serious tone at times,or maybe the lack of jokes and who the director was did that and maybe all of the above....avengers was cartoonish and u don't mind the plotholes,lack of acting,corny moments....I think a lot of people was expecting the batman series type of story due to the tone the movie had...I think that's why the dialogue and plot holes in a movie about a dude flying around in a cape standout so much and get so much hate possibly. all that said it was a great Superman for the fact it showed Superman mmore powerful than any other movie has and had the action