I just watched Man of Steel again and I don't understand the criticisms

[Still Benefited]

and they spent too much time on Krypton only to have Jorel explain that shyt again later on the ship,id rather they did a flashback once Clark got on the ship,and instead spent more time with Clark as a teenager and you getting to see him come up,using powers to impress young bytches,his first woody from Lana tearing a whole in his jeans or breaking a headboard or two......him saving the oil rig and the bar fight scene and saving the bus was more entertaining than a lot of the other interactions in the movie

 

[Ice Cold]

Couldn't even get past 30 minutes of this bs
Okay the planet is being destroyed and there's civil unrest so you send your son off planet but then you're still having a trial? And whatever punishment you did let th survive the apocalypse
Clark hasn't such a sense of morality that he doesn't beat a guy up and instead destroys his livelihood just because he hot handsy with a waitress?
Lois lane takes a random picture and sees Clark miles away on a mountain instantaneously teleports there and moved so fast Clark was barely a few steps a head of her is she the flash?

 

[JayYoung314]

i went 2 da show 2 c this movie and without reading most of this thread i can tell u this movie was average, over-explanatory, and horribly edited. no major fighting happened until the last 15 minutes, and even than it wasnt good enough 2 me, just ok. his evolvement into grown clark happened 2 quick and the fact we see him go from boy to grown man using his powers all out in the open like its no big deal was a huge turn off and bad script writing. theres alot of flaws with this movie but overall it was just average

 

[Sterling Archer]

Go to ACTION movies and complain about the DRAMA brehs.

 

[MartyMcFly]

The romance angle is so important they shoulda done a better job at casting a Lois that had chemistry with Superman...you feel nothing cooking between the two no matter how many times he saves her,no matter how many times they looked into each other eyes. For one thing she looks too old as they cast a Superman who looks like a college student even though he's supposed to be 30 something...secondly Lois provides no comedic relief to even out Superman who is a absolute stiff and akward....which was cool with Chris Reeves becuz Lois was his opposite and they played well off each other.

Snappin Zods neck...why couldn't that family run away?there was plenty of room,Supe couldn't have yelled out "move yo azz"....theyd rather ALL huddle in a corner and cover up...that death seemed so forced and uncreative,id rather Supe had just beat that nikka to death after he tried to kill his moms....but nah that didn't make Superman mad enuff to kill

Clarks daddy...if he could stand there with a Tornado on top of his azz and lovingly hold his hand up and not even blink,i don't see why Clark couldn't have ran out there and jogged away without anybody being the wiser...I woulda assumed Pa Kent had some powers if I seen him standing there with a tornado on top of em smiling

Lois brings the police to Clarks house at some point while he's dressed as Superman,maybe that cop didn't put two and two together if he wasn't a local....I think they tried to give it a serious tone at times,or maybe the lack of jokes and who the director was did that and maybe all of the above....avengers was cartoonish and u don't mind the plotholes,lack of acting,corny moments....I think a lot of people was expecting the batman series type of story due to the tone the movie had...I think that's why the dialogue and plot holes in a movie about a dude flying around in a cape standout so much and get so much hate possibly. all that said it was a great Superman for the fact it showed Superman mmore powerful than any other movie has and had the action

I agree with their romance in the movie being undercooked at best. It seemed like something they wanted to do but couldn't really develop...and with all the stuff going on in the sequel, Lois will probably get the shaft again...pause

 

[MartyMcFly]

Go to ACTION movies and complain about the DRAMA brehs.

Comic book flicks aspire to be more than that nowadays though, so the drama is going to be scrutinized

 

[Sterling Archer]

Comic book flicks aspire to be more than that nowadays though, so the drama is going to be scrutinized

I hear you breh but regardless as to what any form of cinema aspires to be, its up to you as the viewer to accept it as such. I for one, watch action movies and judge them only on action. If I like the fight scenes, then I'm entertained for the reason I wanted to see it. I watch comedies as well. Now there are some dramatic comedies that overlap into eachother's genre but its up to me to decide if I am watching for the laughs or the suspense. If the drama isn't up to par but I laughed my ass off, I'm more than satisfied. If im going in for the complete experience of a movie I have high regards for in its entirety, then I use a much more complete scale of reference. But this is a comicbook movie, NO ONE should be looking for that in a comicbook movie.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I hear you breh but regardless as to what any form of cinema aspires to be, its up to you as the viewer to accept it as such. I for one, watch action movies and judge them only on action. If I like the fight scenes, then I'm entertained for the reason I wanted to see it. I watch comedies as well. Now there are some dramatic comedies that overlap into eachother's genre but its up to me to decide if I am watching for the laughs or the suspense. If the drama isn't up to par but I laughed my ass off, I'm more than satisfied. If im going in for the complete experience of a movie I have high regards for in its entirety, then I use a much more complete scale of reference. But this is a comicbook movie, NO ONE should be looking for that in a comicbook movie.

I hear you and for some I would agree with that BUT most of them aspire to be more than that and have since the early 2000s. Once the comic books started being taken seriously and we were out of the Batman and Robin/Steel/Catwoman phase, everything changed for better or worse, so most fans go in with those expectations set especially since studios started putting good actors in the lead roles, not just people who look the part, and solid or acclaimed directors behind the camera. Christopher Nolan is one of the most powerful directors in Hollywood and certainly has a vision for what he does and when you hear that he is producing Man of Steel and had a hand in the writing, that brings with it a certain expectation, fair or unfair. So with those expectations comes the criticism that people give.

 

[Still Benefited]

I agree with their romance in the movie being undercooked at best. It seemed like something they wanted to do but couldn't really develop...and with all the stuff going on in the sequel, Lois will probably get the shaft again...pause

They coulda left Lois all the way out of this movie for real and saved her for the sequel...she ranks right up there with Venom as most forced character in a superhero move...everybody and they mama woulda expected her to be in it though.

 

[MartyMcFly]

They coulda left Lois all the way out of this movie for real and saved her for the sequel...she ranks right up there with Venom as most forced character in a superhero move...everybody and they mama woulda expected her to be in it though.

Well for the story they were trying to tell I feel like she was needed but they just didn't do it right. Clark needed to learn that he could trust humanity so Lois was the person he learned to trust

 

[Ice Cold]

Go to ACTION movies and complain about the DRAMA brehs.

if it's an action movie than it's even worse because the actin was sooo spread out and impaired by the terrible plot.
Finally watched the whole thing, still a crap a movie but no longer one of the worst super hero movies I've ever seen.
I could name you about 5 animated movies starring superman that were better than this, and probably 80% of Superman TAS was better than this crap.
I agree with the homey above me that they should have had a flash back or something to krypton bc the story as it is was painful to watch.
If you wanted a movie about how superman fits in with the modern world watch superman Vs The Elites.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The problem with superman is and always will be he's too fukking super

He literally has every single superpower known to man. Dude took a bullet from a mounted, sit in a chair, type machine gun in his motherfukking eyeball and it just bounces off.

The only way to even possibly weaken him is finding a piece of his blown up planet from a million miles away.

There's no drama in that. So they have to create bs drama that really shouldn't be drama. Should he save a bus full of kids or let them die? Should he save his fake dad and reveal himself? Should he kill zod or imprison him?

Ooooooo drama....

The ONLY reason the end was a shocker was superman never kills anyone. Ever. He was supposed to be Jesus in a way (flying away with his arms stretched out like Jesus on the cross after speaking to his god like father). So to comic heads this was some bullshyt cause superman doesn't do that






That being said. It still was a cool movie. Better than any other superman live action movie.

 

[Fillerguy]

Pa Kent didn't say "yes"..... He said in a very conflicted tone "I don't know.. maybe" ... He was trying to talk himself into it but in reality didn't really know what the best course of action would be. All he knew in his mind was that the world was not yet ready to accept a Superman type figure. But he also knew that one day Clark was destined to become that type of figure.

The best course of action would be not to teach a superpowered alien preteen that human lives arent worth saving. Thats shyt doesnt even sound right saying it to a regular child. Its like Pa Kent was trolling everytime he was on camera. This dude would rather die to see his son save somebodyWho wrote this shyt? He suicide to prove a point

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

That wasn't Pa Kent's message at all though. He always said that one day Clark would change the world and he was fine with that... It was an inherent trait but also something that Pa Kent believed in. The only thing was that he was conflicted about the when and how and was very protective of his son... which is understandable. It's all pretty straightforward to me.

 

[Box Cutta]

I've never seen it...but I really like this teaser trailer....waiting for it to be on one of my streaming services....



Does the movie hit this ballpark? Did you get a sense from the movie that Superman was truly that symbolic type of figure that all men strived to be like?