How is Man of Steel "Trash"?

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I definitely don't think it's trash but after seeing it a couple times now, I wouldn't say it's as dope as I thought on my initial watch. The Lois and Clark relationship seems rushed, Jor El not really dying was such a bad writing ploy as he became a plot device and he became Jor El Exposition. It's definitely got its weak points but it's not trash at all..although the writing isn't that great and some of the characters are flat:manny:
 

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There's plenty of reasons as to why I couldn't ever call it a good movie, but there's three reasons in particular why I actually disliked it.

Pa Kent lecturing Clark to not be a hero over and over, to the point he is not only literally telling Clark that he should've let an entire school bus of children die, but actually went and chose death over letting his son help humanity with his powers. This mind baffling scenario of the worst superhero parenting ever is made even worse by the fact that Pa Kent is the original inspirational parent in comic books.

Clark not even attempting to save any innocents during the Zod battle. Don't even give me that "well, he was too busy dealing with Zod on his ass", he's the one that punched Zod into a gas station in Smallville, and after he first laid the beats on Zod in Metropolis spent five minutes romancing Lois in a giant crater instead of you know, maybe try and save the hundreds if not thousands people who were surely trapped under rubble, because priorities.

Clark killing Zod. Before you open your mouth, let me be clear that I do not object to a Superman that kills. But the entire situation was so poorly done the impact just didn't ring true. It felt like the scene's only purpose was to have Superman kill, not to have it actually impact his life, no matter how poorly they tried to make it seem like that with him doing the dramatic "Nooooooo!", before cutting straight to a jokey scene of him destroying a military drone and styling on an army general, because that really emphasizes his struggle with having taken a life, man.

Which is why we got the Superman that we got............I always thought as Pa and Ma Kent as being the most loving, 'do the right thing', type of parents that molded Clark to be the boy scout that he is so often called

In a lot of ways we got an Alternate reality Clark, where Pa Kent is basically telling Clark to look out for number 1 (himself) before anything......Which is why I don't think the 'Rookie' Superman argument works.

Pa Kent made Clark a Killer:ohhh:

But then again I gotta watch it again, only watched it once
 

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Which is why we got the Superman that we got............I always thought as Pa and Ma Kent as being the most loving, 'do the right thing', type of parents that molded Clark to be the boy scout that he is so often called

In a lot of ways we got an Alternate reality Clark, where Pa Kent is basically telling Clark to look out for number 1 (himself) before anything......Which is why I don't think the 'Rookie' Superman argument works.

Pa Kent made Clark a Killer:ohhh:

I'd argue that he got that "do the right thing" teaching from Jor El in this flick as opposed Jon Kent. Which I'm fine with but I think it's more of a guy who wants to do the right thing intrinsically and ultimately makes a choice in the end that he felt was the only choice to make. I'd rather see him grow into that guy who has the no killing rule (although he's killed in the comics before) as opposed to just telling me this is who he is
 

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I'd argue that he got that "do the right thing" teaching from Jor El in this flick as opposed Jon Kent. Which I'm fine with but I think it's more of a guy who wants to do the right thing intrinsically and ultimately makes a choice in the end that he felt was the only choice to make. I'd rather see him grow into that guy who has the no killing rule (although he's killed in the comics before) as opposed to just telling me this is who he is
Good point I forgot about Jor El
 
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The movie was terrible.
it had nothing to do with superman killing zod or any of that other fanboy shyt
the movie was just bad. The plot was terrible, acting was terrible, the pacing was horrible

when people criticize the action its not because of the way it looks, it lacks tension, it lacks suspense, its just a bunch of stuff happening on a screen

not to mention if the kyrptonians had a world engine that can turn a planet into a livable habitat for them, and were already exploring space, you mean to tell me they didn't colonize other planets the whole time and just had those people on the out post chilling for no reason
 

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I dont understand why nikkas act like comic book movies should have Oscar worthy plots and metaphors and shyt.

Since when does a comic book movir have too much action?:dahell:


Its Based on a fukking comic book brehs, the shyt isnt gonna make sense to begin with. shyt if it was up to me id make all dc/marvel movies 2 hours of non stop action and spend minimum time developing a story.
 

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I dont understand why nikkas act like comic book movies should have Oscar worthy plots and metaphors and shyt.

Since when does a comic book movir have too much action?:dahell:


Its Based on a fukking comic book brehs, the shyt isnt gonna make sense to begin with. shyt if it was up to me id make all dc/marvel movies 2 hours of non stop action and spend minimum time developing a story.

To be fair son, I think people expect more from the genre now because of the output in recent years. The best comic book flicks as of late don't treat them as "comic books" but actually take it seriously and treat them like any other movie. I got no problem with Man of Steel but I understand why people do and if they feel like there wasn't enough character and too much action, I get that
 

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I did felt a bit rushed from a editing stand point

But I'll be lying to myself if I said I didn't enjoy the hell out of this film.

fukk the critics...

Movie was faithful to the comics plus great action....
 

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I don't understand the hate either. I've never fukk with superman like that, but I bought this shyt on bluray.
 

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I dont understand why nikkas act like comic book movies should have Oscar worthy plots and metaphors and shyt.

Since when does a comic book movir have too much action?:dahell:


Its Based on a fukking comic book brehs, the shyt isnt gonna make sense to begin with. shyt if it was up to me id make all dc/marvel movies 2 hours of non stop action and spend minimum time developing a story.
Blame that shyt on Nolan's TDK... everry since Heath got that Oscar

People instantly put TDK on the pedestal as the movie to go by. Every thing has to be serious nowadays with over drawn mature dialogue and mild action. Nobody has fun at the movies anymore brehs.
 

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To be fair son, I think people expect more from the genre now because of the output in recent years. The best comic book flicks as of late don't treat them as "comic books" but actually take it seriously and treat them like any other movie. I got no problem with Man of Steel but I understand why people do and if they feel like there wasn't enough character and too much action, I get that
In my opinion comic book movies like dredd are hands down the best and funnest to watch.

Nothing worst than a comic movie that spends too much time as the heros alter ego:scusthov:

Thor:scusthov:

Bruce wayne in the nolan batmans:scusthov:

Tony stark in iron man 2 and 3:scusthov:
 
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