How is Man of Steel "Trash"?
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Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Near the beginning of the film Lana's mom talk about all the crazy shyt Clark had done through the years. They had already seen what he was capable of. YEARS after the fact Lois Lane was interviewing people in Smallville that knew Clark had some sort of powers or was different.
You think after seeing him do odd things over the years AND them seeing him fighting an Alien invasion on main street isn't going to lead to them putting two and two together?
Plus it's not like Clark honored his father's wishes anyway. Dude was running around for years using his powers in places where he could be and WAS seen, that was how Lois tracked him down in the first place.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Nah, he was cast perfectly, they just didn't do utilize him properly. The cast of the film was actually really good, they just had a weak script and director not known for getting good performances out of people.
I didn't like him. He didn't have the look of someone that was in charge.
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
I don't know why people always bring up "Oh, so you want another Superman Returns?" argument when someone says they dislike Man Of Steel. These two movies aren't the end-all of what a modern Superman movie can be. There's been enough modern comics that capture Superman's essence without him being a p*ssy boyscout. Just because he has morality and an honest sense of justice doesn't mean he can't go hard when the situation at hand requires it and where Superman Returns failed to show off the latter, Man Of Steel failed to maintain the former. Both movies are flawed, for different reasons, in the same way I feel that both Burton's Batman and Nolan's first two Batman movies are good depictions of Batman, albeit for entirely different reasons.
MOS and BB begins both got a 3.9 out of 5 from the public audience. I personally think it was a slight step behind BB as far as crafting an overall movie. But i was more entertained with MOS.
Moose_Greyjoy
I DO Not Sow
Which is really why I loved it
That kind of falls within the concept of the comic book. There's a selected few that know that Clark and Supes are 1. Pete Ross, Lana Lang, Lois Laine; all deriving from what we've seen in the comics and even smallville. And in the film, those characters are also aware of Clark and Supes being one.
And as far as honoring his father's wishes: he still was. Clark was using aliases and rocking a beard to disguise himself. It wasn't like he was outright telling everyone he's Clark Kent. And think of the beard and the glasses as one of the same.
If you read Superman: Birthright, you'll know that Pa and Clark never really got along because of disagreements of how Clark should use his powers.
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Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
No it doesn't.
Clark and Lana were his close friends and then he revealed his secret. In MoS they just sort of knew each other and saw him doing some superhuman shyt, they also weren't the only ones who saw him doing superhuman shyt. It wasn't just a close group of friends who shared a secret. Peter Ross dimed him out as soon as a reporter came looking.
No he wasn't. His Dad wanted him to not draw attention to himself no matter the cost. Even if you're under an assumed name doing Superhuman shyt is going to draw attention to you (which it did).
Yes it does. You know Superman's orgins have been retconned right? Pete Ross caught Clark changing into Super boy. I think it was Silver Age. There are other versions where Clark tells Pete as well. It's not a coincidence that the people that know Clark's identity while in Smallville were Pete and Lana. It all derives from the comic. And there are versions where Lana doesn't necesarilly know Clark and Supes are 1 but she swears up and down by it by always telling Clark they have to be the same person.
Yeah, don't draw attention as don't let people know that Clark Kent is superman. Which is why the disguise and alias comes to play later in the film. Pa never told him to never use his powers. Read superman: birthright to see were MOS got most of the source material from. Pa and Clark were always at odds over the use of his power during this retcon.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
You glossing over my main point which is in the FILM Clark isn't close friends with any of the people who found out who he was and it wasn't just Pete and Lana.
How is it that I remember this movie better than you do and I don't even really like it?
The scene where Pa Kent and Clark are talking he flat out tells him that he wants him to keep that side of him (meaning his powers) secret not to protect himself or his loved ones but because the world isn't ready to cope with a super powered being walking the earth.
and for the record I own the trade for Birthright. I was hoping this movie would have been more like that but it actually wasn't.
lets just skip to the action sequences
Fillerguy
Veteran
To be honest when i first watched this i thought it was a mediocre film. Stans made me hate the film. Their favorite parts of the movie only highlight how silly MoS was. Top 3 comments are:
"We finally got to see Superman brawl"
There are plenty of animated Superman films where we clearly see Superman do damage yet they managed to have a coherent story. You didnt want that?
"Superman wasnt a p*ssy, he's not afraid to kill"
Superman has never been a p*ssy. He isnt the Punisher or Wolverine, so why are you walking into a Superman movie looking for him to kill?
"He was a rookie, just learning how to be a Superhero"
In what sense was he a rookie? Superc00ns's been saving folks on a sly since his balls dropped so he understands the value of Human life. How does that explain how he completely disregards his surroundings before, during and after his fratboy bro battles with Zod?
And whats with the mute Superman flicks? Returns made Superman mute with mild autism...MoS turned Superc00n into a emotional mute. Explain how one is superior to the other.
Despite all that my biggest gripe has been Superc00n's flying and lil Clark in that red cape. How did he know he could fly? Did I miss the part where Alien daddy explained it? To someone completely ignorant Superman that would seem like an asspull. Where the fukk did lil Clark get that pose from? In MoS' universe their point of reference (Superman Comics) doesnt exist.
"We finally got to see Superman brawl"
There are plenty of animated Superman films where we clearly see Superman do damage yet they managed to have a coherent story. You didnt want that?"Superman wasnt a p*ssy, he's not afraid to kill"
Superman has never been a p*ssy. He isnt the Punisher or Wolverine, so why are you walking into a Superman movie looking for him to kill?"He was a rookie, just learning how to be a Superhero"
In what sense was he a rookie? Superc00ns's been saving folks on a sly since his balls dropped so he understands the value of Human life. How does that explain how he completely disregards his surroundings before, during and after his fratboy bro battles with Zod?And whats with the mute Superman flicks? Returns made Superman mute with mild autism...MoS turned Superc00n into a emotional mute. Explain how one is superior to the other.
Despite all that my biggest gripe has been Superc00n's flying and lil Clark in that red cape. How did he know he could fly? Did I miss the part where Alien daddy explained it? To someone completely ignorant Superman that would seem like an asspull. Where the fukk did lil Clark get that pose from? In MoS' universe their point of reference (Superman Comics) doesnt exist.
Saving people from bus accidents and oil rig fires is different than being in an actual fight with people who want to kill you and who have the same powers as you. Up till Zod and them showed up Superman hadn't been a "superhero" he was pretty much a first responder."He was a rookie, just learning how to be a Superhero"