Hip Hop was the 1st time in America where stereotypes of Blackfolks were self inflicted

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Since these links are so undeniable....Show me 2 big Blaxploitation directors or actors who had beef with both of them ending up dead while in the midst of the beef like we saw with Hip Hop.

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still trying to slither around I see

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....Social Media is fast becoming the second but Hip Hop is the first..

...and it all started when Gangster rap invaded the mainstream in 1993.

When Jazz was the "in" thing...Blackmen wore suits, hell you couldnt even get in a Jazz club without a suit. All the way up to 70's R&B we sang about love and Blackmen dressed like grown men, they even had a term for it, "Dressing /looking sharp." When Superfly (which was directed by a Black man) came out it was countered by a soundtrack denouning drug dealing and drug using. Minstrel shows where out of our control...The way the news and Hollywood portrayed us was out of our control.

But Hip Hop was in our control and look at where we took in since the emergence of gangster/drug dealer rap in the early 90's.

- Black men bragging about killing other Blackmen
- Black Men bragging about selling drugs in their community
- Black men refering to Blackwomen as bytches and hoes
- Blackwomen accepting being called a bytch and a ho(Prior to Hip Hop the only time a woman accepted this on an open level was if she was in the nightlife of the underworld)
- Blackmen bragging about sleeping with other Blackmens wives
- Blackmen making light of hurting/killing children
- Blackmen boasting of their financial status to an audience of people who aren't rich as if to shove it in their faces like snobs.
Blackmen condoning illegal activity and boasting after the illegal activity is complete
- Grown Blackmen dressing like teens and acting like teens
- Blackmen proudly speaking ignorant.



All of the above was self inflicted....No one outside of our race created these images...we(Hip Hop) did...Notice how I dont exclude myself because I cant. I am a contributing factor to all of this as well because I supported it for years, as with so many others. In the late 80's the music of NWA and 2 Live Crew were distributed independently...they weren't pushed by a "machine" so all that conspiracy theory nonsense goes right out the window. No one forces rappers to flash guns or speak on camera about beef with other Blackmen.(I remember Kid Capri saying he refused to ever talk about anyone he ever had beef with openly...Different times different era I guess)


My thing is this....Now that we are here and we are in so deep....what do we do to counter it all?? This self inflicted image has been in effect for around 23 years....Thats 23 years of damage that needs to be reversed and replaced with an alternative...But how the hell is that going to happen? In all of Americas history we never experienced this type of self inflicted damage.

Uncle Tom ass c00n. You and the 66 other c00ns that liked this c00n shyt.
 

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Quick question...

Why are you perpetuating stereotypes as a negative aspect of our culture?
The music is art and culture
It can be about whatever the black male mind can imagine.

Like shakespeare and harry potter. Or terminator.

But you a c00n. So you look at it like a racist white person instead of artistic expression. And you actually used the criminalization of the black men as supporting facts for your arguement. just get a cape, super c00n.
 

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Quick question...

Why are you perpetuating stereotypes as a negative aspect of our culture?
The music is art and culture
It can be about whatever the black male mind can imagine.

Like shakespeare and harry potter. Or terminator.

u would have an argument if more hip hop artists were as complex and detailed to make classics like Harry Potter or Terminator. But that is not the case. Hip Hop fans allowed the "im not a rapper im a hustler" types and art went out the window, hence the stagnating trap beats and the lowering of lyricism era we are in now .


trap beats...meaning every song is about the trap....we r stuck in a era were everything is trap....thats a self inflicting stereotype because the trap is not everyday life for Black people in America as a whole..So why is every current song detailed like it is?





But you a c00n. So you look at it like a racist white person instead of artistic expression. And you actually used the criminalization of the black men as supporting facts for your arguement. just get a cape, super c00n.

And u were doing good....then u said something stupid..

:snoop:

u cant use the argument "artistic expression" again.....too many rappers already came in the game saying they r hustlers not rappers....So when Jeezy has kids wearing snowman shirts....its cuz he's hustling (because he said he's a hustler not a rapper) not because he's artistically expresing himself. No one cares about djing...lyricism fell off...The artform was sold out years ago and hip hop fans excepted it....u cant scream "artistic expression" in this era of stagnation...GTFOH.


The term c00n wouldn't even fit my narrative....Stop being a follower and using childish Black Twitter terms when u dont agbree with something and start thinking for yourself.
:camby:
 

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u would have an argument if more hip hop artists were as complex and detailed to make classics like Harry Potter or Terminator. But that is not the case. Hip Hop fans allowed the "im not a rapper im a hustler" types and art went out the window, hence the stagnating trap beats and the lowering of lyricism era we are in now .


trap beats...meaning every song is about the trap....we r stuck in a era were everything is trap....thats a self inflicting stereotype because the trap is not everyday life for Black people in America as a whole..So why is every current song detailed like it is?







And u were doing good....then u said something stupid..

:snoop:

u cant use the argument "artistic expression" again.....too many rappers already came in the game saying they r hustlers not rappers....So when Jeezy has kids wearing snowman shirts....its cuz he's hustling (because he said he's a hustler not a rapper) not because he's artistically expresing himself. No one cares about djing...lyricism fell off...The artform was sold out years ago and hip hop fans excepted it....u cant scream "artistic expression" in this era of stagnation...GTFOH.


The term c00n wouldn't even fit my narrative....Stop being a follower and using childish Black Twitter terms when u dont agbree with something and start thinking for yourself.
:camby:

The bolder makes absolutely no sense.
Just because white people commercialized our culture does not mean it is not culture, art, and artistic expression. Just because a dollar can be made doesn't change the fact that it's oral tradition.

DJing is playing with a tool.
Lyricism did not fall off, that is subjective and has nothing to do with anything.

Rap as an art form, and tool of culture, existed before spinning on your head and getting molested in the bronx
 

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u would have an argument if more hip hop artists were as complex and detailed to make classics like Harry Potter or Terminator. But that is not the case. Hip Hop fans allowed the "im not a rapper im a hustler" types and art went out the window, hence the stagnating trap beats and the lowering of lyricism era we are in now .


trap beats...meaning every song is about the trap....we r stuck in a era were everything is trap....thats a self inflicting stereotype because the trap is not everyday life for Black people in America as a whole..So why is every current song detailed like it is?







And u were doing good....then u said something stupid..

:snoop:

u cant use the argument "artistic expression" again.....too many rappers already came in the game saying they r hustlers not rappers....So when Jeezy has kids wearing snowman shirts....its cuz he's hustling (because he said he's a hustler not a rapper) not because he's artistically expresing himself. No one cares about djing...lyricism fell off...The artform was sold out years ago and hip hop fans excepted it....u cant scream "artistic expression" in this era of stagnation...GTFOH.


The term c00n wouldn't even fit my narrative....Stop being a follower and using childish Black Twitter terms when u dont agbree with something and start thinking for yourself.
:camby:

The term c00n definitely fits your narrative
1. You blamed "being criminals" and/or promoting criminal activity. Which is such a c00n thing to say. Criminal activity is that because a white person said so.

2. You called Gangster Rap as an example. Which was a period of criminalization, narrated live by rappers. Instead you hold it as evidence of a decline in culture?

3. You believe the story of commercialization and that New York is he birthplace of your culture. But then blame commercialization elsewhere for the fall?

4. Instead of supporting the evolution and phases of your culture, you lack knowledge and appreciation of the culture in it entirety. And you go around blaming black people for your lack of black awareness and sociopolitical awareness overall.

Pretty c00nish to me.
 

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The term c00n definitely fits your narrative
1. You blamed "being criminals" and/or promoting criminal activity. Which is such a c00n thing to say. Criminal activity is that because a white person said so.

2. You called Gangster Rap as an example. Which was a period of criminalization, narrated live by rappers. Instead you hold it as evidence of a decline in culture?

3. You believe the story of commercialization and that New York is he birthplace of your culture. But then blame commercialization elsewhere for the fall?

4. Instead of supporting the evolution and phases of your culture, you lack knowledge and appreciation of the culture in it entirety. And you go around blaming black people for your lack of black awareness and sociopolitical awareness overall.

Pretty c00nish to me.


:snoop:


Thats not the definition of a c00n


and u made up lies about me.....Pointing out Hip hops flaws is not "c00ning" or "uncle tomming".....I'm saying all this on a hip hop platform...Not Fox News.


Also...none of what u said made any sense. U call it evolution..... How the fukk does evolution go backwards? We went from 'smoking weed is not ok' to 'pop xans'.....we went from 'drug dealers aren't cool' to 'trap this trap that" thats not evolution...thats moving backwards.


I see why your rep is so low...:mjlol:
 

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inflicting what? most people who listen to hip hop knows this is a fantasy genre. we all know the llikes of ice cube, tupac, and the game don't live there lyrics
google "minstrel shows", "blackface" etc. Google the 1915 film "the birth of a nation".

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These were all propaganda tactics used to INTENTIONALLY manipulate the black image/reputation. They were all used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of black people. "Propaganda" has been a very effective tool of white supremace well before hiphop ever existed. Fast forward today and anyone with even a little sense of past history can see the parallels.

But instead of white actors in blackface playing these stereotypical roles of blacks, black people are playing the roles themselves:wow:



If you dont understand this, i assume you have zero knowledge of past history. The biggest affect of this music isnt whether or not its directly causing people to go out and commit crimes, but moreso its a tactic to criminalize/demonize the black reputation.
 
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Quick question...

Why are you perpetuating stereotypes as a negative aspect of our culture?
The music is art and culture
It can be about whatever the black male mind can imagine.

Like shakespeare and harry potter. Or terminator.

But you a c00n. So you look at it like a racist white person instead of artistic expression. And you actually used the criminalization of the black men as supporting facts for your arguement. just get a cape, super c00n.


Yo, in 2017 dudes are STILL using the "rap is fantasy like the terminator" excuse :laff::laff::laff:


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Yo, in 2017 dudes are STILL using the "rap is fantasy like the terminator" excuse :laff::laff::laff:


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Real talk, a lot of people have an unhealthy addiction to minstrel rap. They in denial, like crackheads that smoke behind closed doors, but go to work daily.

People rep up and down that rap is for "the streets" until accountability comes to play, then they downplay it as "its just entertainment" to avoid constructive criticism.

For some, they rather get their limbs amputated before giving up ignant rap songs and hot beats.
 

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google "minstrel shows", "blackface" etc. Google the 1915 film "the birth of a nation".your black eaders
67d9c20770b0cf0ef56bdad1cd582e82.jpg



These were all propaganda tactics used to INTENTIONALLY manipulate the black image/reputation. They were all used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of black people. "Propaganda" has been a very effective tool of white supremace well before hiphop ever existed. Fast forward today and anyone with even a little sense of past history can see the parallels.

But instead of white actors in blackface playing these stereotypical roles of blacks, black people are playing the roles themselves:wow:



If you dont understand this, i assume you have zero knowledge of past history. The biggest affect of this music isnt whether or not its directly causing people to go out and commit crimes, but moreso its a tactic to criminalize/demonize the black reputation.
the black leaders of 1900 was not wearing black face when addressing our people. most black people do not take entertainers seriously, this is why most family's did not want their daughters involved with anyone in that industry. a percentage of the black community does not care for hip hop, because it has nothing to do with substance. hip hop is the equivalent of reading playboy magazine, it good way of indulging in fantasy before you have to go back to reality
 
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