Fast food workers strike in NY for higher wages...

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unions are being destroyed by the rich. raising minimum wage would be a good idea.

someones gotta do the shyt jobs, might as well be able to live off it right? and the extra bread they have will stimulate the economy. ie, aggregate demand, investing in people boosts GDP

learn economics and stop telling people to get better jobs. what if you have a criminal record? what job are you gonna get? nationbuilding starts from the bottom up, historically no civilization ever rose to the top any other way,
 
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It's pretty simple to someone who isn't a retard like you. They plotted wages based on BLS numbers adjusted for inflation vs. the ratio of business output to input...you know just like the other 1,000 economic research firms and government agencies who reached the exact same conclusion did. I'm sorry is this is too complex for you to wrap your mind around. :laugh: Maybe I should've added pictures drawn with crayons for you.

You can't even deny the truth of the data. You're just being a dikkhole because you're bored. Log off.


I know what they plotted you fukkin moron, I know how to read a fukkin axis':russ: I can read the title of them too. But please explain what kind of mathematical modeling and methodolgy they used to arrive at the data on the y-axis. I could understand it, if you are able to explain it but you cannot because your a fukking clown who doesnt even understand the shyt hes posting. You draw overly simplified conclusions to shyt you cant even understand.

Sir, if I may ask, what do you do for a living?
 

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they're mandatory in that our society depends on someone doing them

Agreed. Only problem is those jobs are not for adults with multiple kids.

Working in fast food is not supposed to be a career. I'm aware that our economy has forced a lot of folks to depend on those jobs, but they're supposed to be transitional jobs.

Raising the minimum wage across the board would increase everyone's pay instead of incentivizing people to work in marginal fields.
 

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ok, so dont raise minimum wage, but make state and city colleges free.
 

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Washington_Red said:
Working in fast food is not supposed to be a career.

Hogwash. You can make decent money if you aspire to do something more than work the fry station. The problem is many of the people working in these places don't want to do anything that requires a bit more effort than mopping a floor and still expect to be paid like they run the joint.​
 

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I know what they plotted you fukkin moron, I know how to read a fukkin axis':russ: I can read the title of them too. But please explain what kind of mathematical modeling and methodolgy they used to arrive at the data on the y-axis. I could understand it, if you are able to explain it but you cannot because your a fukking clown who doesnt even understand the shyt hes posting. You draw overly simplified conclusions to shyt you cant even understand.

Sir, if I may ask, what do you do for a living?
:heh: Who the fukk is this clown? I'll try to get a Bureau of Labor Statistics statistician to come to your house and explain to you how they plotted inflation-adjusted wages vs. productive output, you fukking imbecile.
 
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:heh: Who the fukk is this clown? I'll try to get a Bureau of Labor Statistics statistician to come to your house and explain to you how they plotted inflation-adjusted wages vs. productive output, you fukking imbecile.

How is productive output measured? What mathematical modeling went into deriving that number? You dont know and thats my fukkin point, you just parrot what other people say without truly understanding the problem so that it fits your agenda.:rudy:

Again, sir, what do you do for a living, if you provided me with that like I asked maybe I can gauge the intelligence level with whom I am dealing with but so far you've been the one thats a tard:beli:
 

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Hogwash. You can make decent money if you aspire to do something more than work the fry station. The problem is many of the people working in these places don't want to do anything that requires a bit more effort than mopping a floor and still expect to be paid like they run the joint.​

Let me amend that last statement.

Working entry level in fast food is not supposed to be a career.
 

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You guys can theorize and hypothesize all day about the benefits of business giving away all their profits to their workers, but in the real world socialism has never succeeded and likely will never will. What would motivate someone to start a business, usually requiring a large initial capital investment, simply just to give the majority of the bonuses away to their workers? I mean, you guys seem to think business are obligated to pay their workers the maximum salary possible, simply for the "good of the nation" or whatever BS you guys seem to believe at the time. Again, its clear that many of you all have never really started a business or really looked at the inner workings of how a successful business thrives. Simply "paying people more" isn't the answer to solve all ills. Because if the business no longer becomes viable (i.e. hostess) then there will be NO profits to pay ANYONE.

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lots of the big money makers their could cut their wage and they would be fine

i know a man who has a big position at a fast food company, he could cut his salary by like 200 grand a year and still be caking. He could actually probably make like 20 grand a year and still be able to clothe his children and furnish his house from the amount of promotional junk he gets from big companies who partner with the restaurant.

its funny bc the same hardcore conservative anti "socialism" people are usually the same people who complain about immigrants and foreign ppl coming and "taking all the jobs" but they won't pay their workers at home more money so they can provide for a family and send their kids to school so they can be educated and skilled enough to work those jobs in the future.
 

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How is productive output measured? What mathematical modeling went into deriving that number? You dont know and thats my fukkin point, you just parrot what other people say without truly understanding the problem so that it fits your agenda.:rudy:

Again, sir, what do you do for a living, if you provided me with that like I asked maybe I can gauge the intelligence level with whom I am dealing with but so far you've been the one thats a tard:beli:

It doesn't fit my agenda you dumb fukk, that's what you fail to realize. People opposite of my political persuasion don't dispute those facts. They just have differing views on how to deal with it.

Dispute the premise that productivity has greatly increased while wages and compensation have remained stagnant or eat a dikk. If you can't do it stop talking because you're not engaging in any productive discussion. You're just releasing misplaced anger and sexual frustration on the internet.
 
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It doesn't fit my agenda you dumb fukk, that's what you fail to realize. People opposite of my political persuasion don't dispute those facts. They just have differing views on how to deal with it.

Dispute the premise that productivity has greatly increased while wages and compensation have remained stagnant or eat a dikk. If you can't do it stop talking because you're not engaging in any productive discussion. You're just releasing misplaced anger and sexual frustration on the internet.

Yea Im blowing a load all over your fukkin bullshyt:steviej:

Im not disputing any fukking thing because there is no point to it in HL. Im just pointing out the fact that you dont even understand what the fukk your presenting and just parroting what others say. That is all. You're a cheerleader. fukk productive discussions in this forum cause thats definitely not what I see here. Productive discussion, in this forum, is when every agrees with you. But you cant seem to grasp that


Again sir what do you do for a living, what is so hard about answering that?
 
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thats what you do in here, insult people who confront you about your deceitfulness. Very little productive conversation goes on in here cause this place is just one big fukkin circle jerk. I told you Im not even going to bother to discuss this with you cause you present data and figures which you cant even get.
 
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