We are living in Modern Day Imperialism, just replace flags with company logos. Forget $1 or $2 raises, fight to destroy the corporations.
When I was a teenager, minimum wage was only $5.25. Obviously, that isn't enough to live off of, and I'm sure most people don't plan on staying there forever. The issue isn't so much the wages as far as I'm concerned. You SHOULD be paid based on your experience, level of education, etc. The problem is, most of those making lower wages get their hours cut because the companies don't want to pay them overtime or have them receive benefits. Also, most of these workers are treated like shyt.
Well if you were a teenage in the 80's or early 90's 5$ an hour wasn't the end of the world.
Man, I'm not that old. My first job, I was making that at 16 years old in 1998.
There are still some pockets of the country that can squeeze by on minimum wage, but the fact that NYC does not have at LEAST a $10 minimum wage is infuriating. I'm not with the idea that people should be working 70 hour weeks either. That starts creeping into my working just to work argument which I have had at length with people face to face.Even in 98 I'm not going to say it was great but it was much more on par with cost of living than the 7.25$ today or whatever it is.
There are still some pockets of the country that can squeeze by on minimum wage, but the fact that NYC does not have at LEAST a $10 minimum wage is infuriating. I'm not with the idea that people should be working 70 hour weeks either. That starts creeping into my working just to work argument which I have had at length with people face to face.
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Thats only part of it...working that many hours week in and week out cannot be healthy in any sense of the word. You have to start cutting back on fixing up your meals, taking your kids out, spending time with the wife, cutting back on sleep to the bare minimum. When you do get a day off (if you are lucky) you are so exhausted that you kinda just wanna lay there and not do anything.Too many people are doing that. Next thing you know you are 65 and your life has passed you by.
88m3 said:I think this is worthy of a serious discussion. Apparently you don't.
Liquid said:you know you don't believe that.
I believe that implicitly and I've had a LOT of jobs in my lifetime. When my ex-wife was pregnant, I worked 3 jobs in order to keep her home. Up until May of this year, I was working 2 jobs and attending school part-time.
People crying about not being able to afford things are most likely living above their means or just plain lazy and don't want jobs they feel are 'beneath' them.
Thats only part of it...working that many hours week in and week out cannot be healthy in any sense of the word. You have to start cutting back on fixing up your meals, taking your kids out, spending time with the wife, cutting back on sleep to the bare minimum. When you do get a day off (if you are lucky) you are so exhausted that you kinda just wanna lay there and not do anything.
I DO feel bad for those workers, but on the other hand I think many need to man up and realize the situation they are in. If you cannot afford to live somewhere...stop trying to make it work when the odds are against you and are seemingly in a position in where you are not going to continue advancing.
Luckily I realized this at a young age...I was annoying to many of my older folks because I refused to accept the "work harder" just to stay afloat no matter WHAT the location was. I miss home at times, but then I look at almost everyone in my family is the same position and just further strengthens my stance that I KNOW I made the right move leaving nyc.
That's the right answer. Not denigrating each other. They desereve the higher wages but if they can afford it there they will have to give up on NYC. It's sad but until the rent control goes that's how it is. Philadelphia, Chicago are cheaper.
Well eventually no one in the service industry is going to be able to live and work here. Then what? Hell if you're not making 60k+ you're not going to make it.
NYC has to change. Get rid of the rent controls but I think NYC will become crazy if that happens.
They'll turn the projects into condo's if you let them, too many stupid people in this world.
Of course. Pushing more people out to hempstead and Mount Vernon