Every time an ignorant person says bicycling and public transit would never work in America like it does in Europe…

[concise]

Wait. By what evidence does adding rail and bike lane create road blocks?

That's not what I said. I said they're adding roadblocks, in addition to other measures.

Video of Fire Truck Stuck on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights Sparks More Debate About Open Streets Initiative - Jackson Heights Post

Sept. 22, 2022 By Michael Dorgan A video posted online showing an FDNY fire truck failing to maneuver a turn on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights has

jacksonheightspost.com

 

[Devilinurear]

Just admit you don’t know history.

Naw they are just fat and lazy

 

[Luke Cage]

That's not what I said. I said they're adding roadblocks, in addition to other measures.

Video of Fire Truck Stuck on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights Sparks More Debate About Open Streets Initiative - Jackson Heights Post

Sept. 22, 2022 By Michael Dorgan A video posted online showing an FDNY fire truck failing to maneuver a turn on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights has

jacksonheightspost.com

this is more evidence that doing traffic and car related infrasture is inferior to rail systems, this supports our arguments not yours.
This was the result of creating turnabouts to manage automobile traffic. Nothing to do with subways or monorails.

 

[Son Goku]

I live 12 miles from my job. Ain’t no way in the fukk I’m using a bike every day. fukk that

Americans are too fat and/or lazy to be biking anywhere. I know I am.


Imagine all the missed time and PTO taken because folks got into bike accidents, got injured, or got two clicks out and said fukk this and turned around and went home.
fukk I look like using up my chakra to bike down the street 5-10 minutes to pull up to the drive-thru?

 

[Devilinurear]

Flabby and sick gang already in here complaining about the thought of having to walk/bicycle/use public transportation anywhere for anything LITERALLY SWEATING at just the notion of not being able to waddle their sloppy ass to their local Walmart in their oversized cars. you love to see it

You see it

 

[Devilinurear]

Well it won’t work. On Long Island they took a whole lot of bus service away. Getting to my job by bus is a 2.5 hour commute including a 2 mile walk, vs a 25 minute drive.

So waste 4 hours a day, walk, and sit on a bus with loud smelly people, or drive in a peaceful, leather appointed environment? That’s an easy decision

So you can't use the LIRR?

 

[concise]

this is more evidence that doing traffic and car related infrasture is inferior to rail systems, this supports our arguments not yours.
This was the result of creating turnabouts to manage automobile traffic. Nothing to do with subways or monorails.

Yes, send firefighters on a train to put out a fire. Gotcha.

 

[Luke Cage]

Yes, send firefighters on a train to put out a fire. Gotcha.

no, wtf?

Why you acting like something underground has any affect on the road above?
I's literally just less cars and people in the firetrucks way.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Too many sprawling cities in America.

Europe works because we’re naturally smaller, our roads weren’t designed for massive cars either, so safety is also an issue.

Also too many oil lobbyists. I remember when I was in Arizona and they had only just OKed the building of a tram style service, but it was super controversial due to to debates going on in the city.

This guy has explained it all:

Houston is the first city I thought of when I saw this thread. It’s a great city, had fun there, but you definitely need a vehicle to move around.

 

[concise]

no, wtf?

Why you acting like something underground has any affect on the road above?
I's literally just less cars and people in the firetrucks way.

Did you read the article or watch the clip? Where the hell are you coming from with trains? There are literal huge potted plants in the streets preventing a fire truck from making a turn. An actual roadblock.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

this is more evidence that doing traffic and car related infrasture is inferior to rail systems, this supports our arguments not yours.
This was the result of creating turnabouts to manage automobile traffic. Nothing to do with subways or monorails.

A LOT of those pedestrian plazas in the city are unnecessary.

 

[Luke Cage]

Did you read the article or watch the clip? Where the hell are you coming from with trains? There are literal huge potted plants in the streets preventing a fire truck from making a turn. An actual roadblock.

I'm not talking about the article. I've been talking about Subways and monorails the entire time and you've responded to my points about subways and monrails
Public transit isn't meant to replace cars and roads, but provide alternatives to it.

 

[Remote]

Americans are too fat and/or lazy to be biking anywhere. I know I am.


Imagine all the missed time and PTO taken because folks got into bike accidents, got injured, or got two clicks out and said fukk this and turned around and went home.
fukk I look like using up my chakra to bike down the street 5-10 minutes to pull up to the drive-thru?

This dude is talking about missing work over bike accidents.

In a country with thousands of car-related deaths every year.

 

[Son Goku]

This dude is talking about missing work over bike accidents.

In a country with hundreds of thousands of car-related deaths every year.

Didn't mention bike fatalities, just folks calling out from work because they got in an accident.


Americans don't even workout regularly but they're gonna be biking to work?

 

[Remote]

Didn't mention bike fatalities, just folks calling out from work because they got in an accident.


Americans don't even workout regularly but they're gonna be biking to work?

Do you want the stats on car related accidents?

You really want to go down this path?