Elon Musk backs Trump’s plan to close the Department of Education.

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You make loans like you normally do - private lenders and banks loan anyone the funds they want for higher education.

Except this time the loans are backed by the colleges instead of the U.S. taxpayer. When you put the risk on the schools, you will quickly not only see the cost of education drop (no longer subsidized), but all of the bullshyt Marxists activists masquerading as educators will be quickly be tossed out of the system.

Students will also hold colleges accountable. When you get a degree in something that isn't useful to society, you have no one else to blame but yourself and the college. As the ROI is low and THEY are on the hook (the school is now competing in a free market), they won't offer things there is no future in or have to lower prices. There's no reason a liberal arts major should be paying $100k for a degree and 4 years of time, the same as an Electrical Engineering major.

This will also expose that $100k isn't REALLY about the quality of the education, but the value of the connections elite universities offer. That's one of the prime reasons they cost so much. Americans are not ready for these discussions because they view education as virtue, so any criticism of an institution is viewed as an attack on that virtue and not the worth of the institution itself.
Is this something the Trump administration is proposing to do?
 

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Those red welfare states are so fukked. We're going to see massive brain drain from the south.
I take satisfaction in know they will face the consequences of their actions.

But there is a huge danger in their ignorance and this personality cult. Because when under trump, things go to shyt and Trump, a known responsibility dodger, needs to give them an excuse, he isn't going to say "oops my bad". Nah things are failing for other reasons... Other people. These individuals are indoctrinated in the cult of personality they will buy this illogical hypocrisy without question and whoever he tells them that is at fault for their problem, they will go after. Not that this hasn't existed before but now you've made their situation even more dire when means more anger and desperation driving the issue now. Not a good situation brehs.
 

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Is this something the Trump administration is proposing to do?

Not the part about holding the colleges accountable. It's been floated in discussions for years, and I'm almost positive I've heard Vivek and Elon speak about it before. No clue if they are seriously going to eventually push it on Trump and Vance to enact.
 
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Exactly

It was majority uneducated whites that voted for him. Uneducated latino men too but thats just as expected.

Trump does well with the uneducated.. of course he shuts down Department of Education
Bingo.

Dumb voters = easy wins for Republicans

The Ted Cruz types will make sure THEIR kids receive first class schooling. They already know most Blacks can see through the bullshyt so the focus is on young white and Latino males that lack critical thinking skills.

Why else would old rich white men (that actually benefit from Trump) and working class Latino & white boys be voting for the same thing?
 

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So without the Department of Education in place, does this means any wacko can open up a school because they won't have a formal education guideline or standard to follow?
Actually yes. They mention this in that video I posted about the Nebraska school system. They had several instances of fly by night schools that were bare bones and didn't mean accreditation standards, lure a bunch of people with promises of an education and dip once they got their money
 

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Yeah but saying stop giving those loans doesn’t mean the price will go down. It’ll just be unaffordable for the vast majority of Americans like it was before the loans existed.
which directly means the price goes down :dahell:

and i'm not trying to downplay your concerns, but maybe people easily going 60k into debt as 22 year olds, for bullshyt degrees, is not a good status quo :yeshrug:
 

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Actually yes. They mention this in that video I posted about the Nebraska school system. They had several instances of fly by night schools that were bare bones and didn't mean accreditation standards, lure a bunch of people with promises of an education and dip once they got their money
That's what I kind of figured as well, terrific hunting grounds for grifters.

shyt, Trump, Elon and them probably know a few people who have that plan and about to stack up.
 

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Country surely gonna turn into the haves and the have nots, educated and uneducated, with very little ability for the poor to transcend class barriers and for the rich to lose their hoards.

Vast majority of the country is gonna be uneducated, poor asf working until they die for pennies as the rich engorge themselves with the low classes hard work.
Yep and guess who’s legacies will live on from generation to generation.
 

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Are you implying that potential college students won't have access to federal loans if Trump pulls off shutting down the DOE?
They won't have access to the Federal Student Aid program which helps low income families and newly independent students.. like a 24 year old in college or a family making 40k or less. wouldn't have access to those funds if the doe was gone
 

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I take satisfaction in know they will face the consequences of their actions.

But there is a huge danger in their ignorance and this personality cult. Because when under trump, things go to shyt and Trump, a known responsibility dodger, needs to give them an excuse, he isn't going to say "oops my bad". Nah things are failing for other reasons... Other people. These individuals are indoctrinated in the cult of personality they will buy this illogical hypocrisy without question and whoever he tells them that is at fault for their problem, they will go after. Not that this hasn't existed before but now you've made their situation even more dire when means more anger and desperation driving the issue now. Not a good situation brehs.
Immigrants were the ultimate scapegoat this election. Housing costs, inflation, crime, all fault of immigrants. People ate it up
 
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