Democrats cover ears and mock delegates reading dead kids' names from Gaza

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I have sympathies with some of the protestors arguments but causing a ruckus and chaos and fuss and aggravating people who already agree or are open to your views with you isnt the solution at all, they never protest republicans or conservatives who are open about their support for israel and being against their issues
Only the Dems pay lip service to being somewhat humanitarian. Calling them out on their bullshyt. Plus, the current president is a Democrat.
 

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I have sympathies with some of the protestors arguments but causing a ruckus and chaos and fuss and aggravating people who already agree or are open to your views with you isnt the solution at all, they never protest republicans or conservatives who are open about their support for israel and being against their issues
Still, Republicans didn’t face the same ire at their convention, and the reason protesters in Chicago said they showed up here, instead, is to hold the party currently in power accountable.



But I guess using Google and your fukking brain makes you a Trump shill. You idiots need to grow the fukk up. The Dems say they are the party of the people and are for humanity.

There is nothing fukking humane about funding a God damned genocide. We're all tired of seeing kids with blown up heads and shredded limbs on our timelines. We don't want our fukking money sent to do that shyt.

That doesn't fukking mean we want Trump, we want the party we voted for NOT to do what Trump WILL.

My God, some of you are so remedial. Stop being NPCs and use your damn heads
 

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Still, Republicans didn’t face the same ire at their convention, and the reason protesters in Chicago said they showed up here, instead, is to hold the party currently in power accountable.



But I guess using Google and your fukking brain makes you a Trump shill. You idiots need to grow the fukk up. The Dems say they are the party of the people and are for humanity.

There is nothing fukking humane about funding a God damned genocide. We're all tired of seeing kids with blown up heads and shredded limbs on our timelines. We don't want our fukking money sent to do that shyt.

That doesn't fukking mean we want Trump, we want the party we voted for NOT to do what Trump WILL.

My God, some of you are so remedial. Stop being NPCs and use your damn heads
Oh stop the nonsense and pretense. It was the same bullshyt during obama tenure and the far left going on about drone strikes and obama killing dozens of innocent by standers, when trump got in and tripled the casualties of drone strike killings and removed all restrictions on its use obama put in place, the far left couldnt care to protest or get outraged, its not about the party in power. Its their constant letting republicans off the hook that people are tired of simple.
 

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Oh stop the nonsense and pretense. It was the same bullshyt during obama tenure and the far left going on about drone strikes and obama killing dozens of innocent by standers, when trump got in and tripled the casualties of drone strike killings and removed all restrictions on its use obama put in place, the far left couldnt care to protest or get outraged, its not about the party in power. Its their constant letting republicans off the hook that people are tired of simple.
What the fukk does Obama have to do with anything? Who is president NOW? Joe Biden and his VP campaigned on returning to normal after Trump. How is sending money, arms, and cosigning a literal genocide normal. How is defending Israel while it breaks records for children killed normal?

Holding the current administration accountable is not nonsense you retard, it's democratic and a constitutional right. Just like the women's march was, just like the Floyd protests were, and just like the stop Asian hate protests were; all under Trump.

Again, grow the fukk up. Stats, research, and pundits are all saying this very straightforward issue could cost democrats the election. Instead of addressing it, they are fumbling the election. It's like they learned nothing from 2016
 
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Still, Republicans didn’t face the same ire at their convention, and the reason protesters in Chicago said they showed up here, instead, is to hold the party currently in power accountable.



But I guess using Google and your fukking brain makes you a Trump shill. You idiots need to grow the fukk up. The Dems say they are the party of the people and are for humanity.

There is nothing fukking humane about funding a God damned genocide. We're all tired of seeing kids with blown up heads and shredded limbs on our timelines. We don't want our fukking money sent to do that shyt.

That doesn't fukking mean we want Trump, we want the party we voted for NOT to do what Trump WILL.

My God, some of you are so remedial. Stop being NPCs and use your damn heads
Well the guy who’s running was President before so there’s that. I have no problem with protests btw.
 
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Its really hard to tell in real time whether these protests are working because it seems like people are becoming more desensitized, or they're straight up being nasty about the issue, just to spite the protestors. Also it seems like the American populace has made a very sudden shift towards being mostly moderate, and I can't figure out exactly why.
 
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Does that only go for "Islam", or does it apply to other ideologies too?
Any belief worth having is worth standing firm on
Because very soon you reach contradictions that would make living in a pluralistic society impossible.
1: This is slippery slope fallacy
2: There's plenty examples of legal prescriptions and jurisprudence that allow for plurality
3: Plurality is not even necessary for humanity
which "Islam"
Spare me with dropping names of what you think would equate to significantly different iterations of the religion
No man is an island
Sloganeering
and no human ideology is pure
Not relevant to my argument
Mohammed himself was extremely influenced by the Jews and Christians around him and kept changing his ideas, sometimes under political pressure, almost all the way through to his death.
These are inaccurate assertions
 

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i look at the current dispute over democratic inaction on israel, in the midst of an election, from a utilitarian standpoint.



looking at this illustration, instead of reducing the palestinians to the lone figure, i would rather say that it represents staying the course and working on a ceasefire without being too condemnatory - in word and deed - of israel and its actions.

the group of figures is representative of initiating an arms embargo, pulling funding, and threatening israel with sanctions if it doesn’t put an immediate halt to the bombings.

there is, of course, clear moral justification for the second choice. i doubt anyone will disagree that a huge cry of relief would be heard if that happened.

but, doing so would almost certainly guarantee trump wins.

the outcome would invite untold horrors upon millions more than the entire population of palestinians. it would spell an end to any participation by the us, the world’s only superpower, in staving off the climate crisis. it would pave the way for russia to absorb multiple nations within her empire.

the pro-palestinian crowd isn’t exercising logic.

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I will give you one simple reason why all of what you stated above is BS.... The Democrats already hold the Presidency. They could have done something about awhile back, not have to wait on Kamala to do it. It also was not important to her while she has the ear of the President as the VP and democratic nominee.

So your whole diatribe was a massive attempt to gaslight about the circumstances, by making it seem like their hands are tied until they can win the election. Also, if those who vote Democratic are about the ideals of democracy, then doing the right thing by stopping the genocide should not move Trump any closer to winning than what he is now. In fact, it should hinder him, because it would ignite more of the young people to vote Democratic to help stop the genocide.

So no, lives are being extinguished and you care more about your party winning than the party stopping the killings. Also, that misuse of the tram analogy is just the cherry on the top of exposing what you are willing to do to ignore what is being done by your side, even as people die and are maimed each day.

This exposes the problem with true believers in anything. They will support evil, thinking they are being righteous. No real critical thinking, because all of their effort will be towards defending the side they truly believe in. So they remain blind to the what is really going on, because they can't allow the truth to hinder their beliefs.
 

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He could be president again if democrats don't split with him on this key foreign policy issue. No one wins if that happens.
Well the protesters should be at his events too. I don’t know if they’re at Trump rallies because I never see it posted. I never see them when I’m personally at Trump rallies. This election is close, if these people care about this war so much why not check the temperature on both sides and see who aligns more with what you want? That’s the issue people are having. I mean are we sure either party really cares like these protests want them to? I don’t know.
 

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Its really hard to tell in real time whether these protests are working because it seems like people are becoming more desensitized, or they're straight up being nasty about the issue, just to spite the protestors. Also it seems like America has made a very shift towards most of the populace becoming damn near moderate, and I can't figure out exactly why.
I'm not sure either

I know I have one parent that was "our ancestors died for this!" And now they've done a 180 to not voting because of all the Gaza stuff they've been hearing and seeing

I hope Dems lose personally

I'm scared of another Trump term but this is going to be a judgement of whether they have to listen to the left
 
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