Democrats cover ears and mock delegates reading dead kids' names from Gaza

[I Really Mean It]

What I find also very distasteful is how some of you, whom I assume to be Black Americans, will excuses any action your political party participates in. Let's be honest, both Republicans and Democrats are enabling the genocide by not using the immense power and influence this nation has on Israel to stop it. To seek to excuse the actions or to act like a speech means action, when true action is needed to stop the killings, seems to be very disingenuous in the extreme to me.

In the case of Democrats, it also does not help that they allowed an Israeli to speak, but banned any Palestinians from speaking. If one side was allowed to speak, the other side should have been allowed to speak too. Well that is if the Democratic party is the party of fair dealings and justice that is. That act of excluding the Palestinians from taking the stage and speaking, seemed so very Republican like to me.

i look at the current dispute over democratic inaction on israel, in the midst of an election, from a utilitarian standpoint.



looking at this illustration, instead of reducing the palestinians to the lone figure, i would rather say that it represents staying the course and working on a ceasefire without being too condemnatory - in word and deed - of israel and its actions.

the group of figures is representative of initiating an arms embargo, pulling funding, and threatening israel with sanctions if it doesn’t put an immediate halt to the bombings.

there is, of course, clear moral justification for the second choice. i doubt anyone will disagree that a huge cry of relief would be heard if that happened.

but, doing so would almost certainly guarantee trump wins.

the outcome would invite untold horrors upon millions more than the entire population of palestinians. it would spell an end to any participation by the us, the world’s only superpower, in staving off the climate crisis. it would pave the way for russia to absorb multiple nations within her empire.

the pro-palestinian crowd isn’t exercising logic.

 

[horizon]

i look at the current dispute over democratic inaction on israel, in the midst of an election, from a utilitarian standpoint.



looking at this illustration, instead of reducing the palestinians to the lone figure, i would rather say that it represents staying the course and working on a ceasefire without being too condemnatory - in word and deed - of israel and its actions.

the group of figures is representative of initiating an arms embargo, pulling funding, and threatening israel with sanctions if it doesn’t put an immediate halt to the bombings.

there is, of course, clear moral justification for the second choice. i doubt anyone will disagree that a huge cry of relief would be heard if that happened.

but, doing so would almost certainly guarantee trump wins.

the outcome would invite untold horrors upon millions more than the entire population of palestinians. it would spell an end to any participation by the us, the world’s only superpower, in staving off the climate crisis. it would pave the way for russia to absorb multiple nations within her empire.

the pro-palestinian crowd isn’t exercising logic.

Pure racism and psychopathy. Jesus Christ

 

[horizon]

kamala stood before throngs of supporters, during a televised broadcast that reached millions, and did what NO politician running for the highest office of this land has ever done - assert that palestinians have a right to a state.

More shill babble

https://twitter.com/zaidjilani/status/1827041822390304957?s=46

 

[motion order]

Which aspect of "Muslim faith" do you believe that Democrats are trying to force Muslims to forego in America and you believe they should be keeping?

Islam should not acquiesce anything to any alternative ideology. What I personally believe is irrelevant.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Preaching Xenophobia, Homophobia and Capitalism as it creates hierarchies within Black communities that gives some faster access, power and liberation at the expense of others.

This is intentional, because Black ppl on a macro scale:

• Don’t have the deep desire of liberation of ALL Black ppl, unfortunately.

• Don’t hate White Supremacy and oppressive systems MORE than they LOVE the desire to have its power themselves to use on others.

That’s why the moment a fraction of said power is acquired,
structures to oppress other Black ppl within Black communities are created, despite this being the opposite of true Black liberation.

A LOTTA NIKKAS don’t hate White Supremacy and oppression..

They hate that they don’t have the POWER white ppl have,
to do it to OTHERS or other nikkas THEMSELVES..

This is wildly inaccurate. Not wanting to be starved out of America is not fukking xenophobia and capitalism. It's survival.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Are these protestors protesting for a true cease fire or are they protesting in support for Hamas? Also I think their vision is a bit short sighted and this isn't the way to go about getting what they want. I know they feel like they have leverage now but they don't really. Also it's hard for me to take them serious when they really only have smoke for Kamala.

You're an idiot

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Y'all know many Black democrats (especially the ones on here) think they are the modern versions of the black radical tradition?? King, Malcolm, Fred Hampton, etc.

A lot of the revolutionaries who weren't killed, jailed, or exiled ended up in the professional class which saw the rise of the black 'revolutionary' scholar. The 'Million Man March' and the late 90s/2000s reparations push are the last vestiges of an independent black political movement in action.

Black politics is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic liberal establishment. Our role in that establishment is to leverage our civil rights tradition and provide moral legitimacy for white liberals in their companies and institutions. It's black bourgeoisie work. It's tenuous work, of course, just ask Claudine Gay.

If black liberals like Gay who care about fairness on the question of Palestine are front-line expendable, you can be sure as shyt black centrists in the democratic party who could give a fukk about Palestine are not going to say anything. Why miss out on that AIPAC money and end up like Cori Bush?

I'm not even mad at them on that front. It's just funny when they tell us their neo-liberalism/centrist politics is some kind of bulwark against right-wing fascism in this country all the while being in lockstep with the same fascists when it comes to the support of a genocidal ethnostate, and then go hide when the leader of that ethnostate shows up to Congress. Doesn't show much resolve against fascism, does it?

Yeah
I'm mostly done with voting on anything but local shyt

This is facts

This country won't do shyt for the whites, if you're Black and voting for Dems out of self preservation at this point you're fooling yourself

They know they don't have to do anything, and they won't

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

MAGA throwing any old shyt at the wall at this point

LOL I have to apologize if I've ever been mad at ppl who critiques Dems...these ppl are idiots

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Islam should not acquiesce anything to any alternative ideology. What I personally believe is irrelevant.

Does that only go for "Islam", or does it apply to other ideologies too? Should feminists refuse to acquiesce anything to any alternative ideology? Should Christians refuse to acquiesce anything to any alternative ideology? Should racists refuse to acquiesce anything? Because very soon you reach contradictions that would make living in a pluralistic society impossible.

And which "Islam" are you referring to that should refuse to acquiesce? The Afghan Taliban's Islam, which many believe is the purest form, who just banned women's bare faces or voices in public? The Saudi Islam that requires women to have a male guardian and had banned them from even driving a car? Can we consider what Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and Indonesia have chosen as their government to be acquiescing to "alternative ideologies" because they've adopted some pluralistic ideas and refuse to govern in the same way? Are Wahhabis the only interpretation that matters, or are Imailis and Ibadis and and the various devotees of Sufi saints okay too?

No man is an island, and no human ideology is pure. Mohammed himself was extremely influenced by the Jews and Christians around him and kept changing his ideas, sometimes under political pressure, almost all the way through to his death. Should that process have stopped in A.D. 632?

 

[Fill Collins]

I am against zionism, but all the same, I am very much against Trump

I'm still an American, and in America, you only get two options, protesting at the DNC was assbackwards

It's like those retards who don't vote locally or in their primaries who get mad the Dems aren't leftist enough, the candidates are in your neighborhoods

And on the other hand, all that talk about "anti-semitism" and bringing the parents of a "hostage" was really, really unnecessary

fukk Israel, but fukk Trump first

 

[Fill Collins]

Islam should not acquiesce anything to any alternative ideology. What I personally believe is irrelevant.

If you want sharia or salafism, move to a non-secular country

The average Muslim is a just masjid goer who leaves ppl alone and I don't believe in banning religious garb, but Islam and any religion, every religion, should adapt to the modern world or keep it in the bedroom

Overtly religious ppl are like faggœts, do all that crap in private

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Vote for Jill Stein or write someone else in. Voting for funding genocide isn't it, no matter who you hate to see be president.
Be on the record you are against child murder and those who do it and fund it.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

yall gotta stop posting shyt i said years ago, as if opinions and world views don’t change.

Are you afraid of The Coli pitchforks

nobody goes from passive republican/conservative to outright democrat in a matter of months. You can fool a lot of these nikkas but some of us know what time it is. Them nikkas put pressure on your ass and you folded

 

[Roger king]

I have sympathies with some of the protestors arguments but causing a ruckus and chaos and fuss and aggravating people who already agree or are open to your views with you isnt the solution at all, they never protest republicans or conservatives who are open about their support for israel and being against their issues

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I have sympathies with some of the protestors arguments but causing a ruckus and chaos and fuss and aggravating people who already agree or are open to your views with you isnt the solution at all, they never protest republicans or conservatives who are open about their support for israel and being against their issues

They never protest Republicans is a dumb talking point

Protestors protest places other than the DNC