James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats "roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble"

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[Scaaar]

I mostly agree with Kyle outside of the showing up on Sunday morning shows screaming about everything the Republicans do. The literal last election showed us that talking about whats happening is not enough. The base who are going to vote Dem, sure, a lot of them key in on it. Independents didn't give a fukk. Those without a college degree REALLY didn't give a fukk. Carville's big-picture miss is that he said "Make them miss us."

No fool, there are things to be done, but the smartest thing is to retreat a bit, focus the message, and stop being reactionary. They have to be on the attack but on a broad scale: billionaires. Telling people that Trumps evil ass is evil lead to "Orange man bad" bullshyt. The same way to media doesn't care that Trump goofs constantly, people have gotten used to Trump doing awful shyt and tune it out especially with this second win. The Dems should all be touring like Bernie and focusing on anger. fukk trying to explain that Democracy is at stake cause people think Dems are elitist for using simple words to explain what something is. Key in on the anger and point people in the direction of who is causing their misery. Also, stop chasing fukking billionaire dollars, Jeffries.

You definitely have a point. Dems are too reactionary and performative. They spend too much time running around and telling people that he's destroying Democracy and the US as we know it. But the thing is that a lot of people feel like the system is failing them anyway so they don't care that it burns and as a matter of fact the Dems are sounding like they're defending a system that isn't beneficial to everyone. But honestly a more progressive part needs to come outta the ashes and push the corporate Dems into the closet. They should be going around city to city mobilizing folks for these local and state races and then build a coalition that way. All this pleading for Trump voters to switch sides is dead in the water. Focus on policies that directly benefit the people and get outta the billionaires pockets

 

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You definitely have a point. Dems are too reactionary and performative. They spend too much time running around and telling people that he's destroying Democracy and the US as we know it. But the thing is that a lot of people feel like the system is failing them anyway so they don't care that it burns and as a matter of fact the Dems are sounding like they're defending a system that isn't beneficial to everyone. But honestly a more progressive part needs to come outta the ashes and push the corporate Dems into the closet. They should be going around city to city mobilizing folks for these local and state races and then build a coalition that way. All this pleading for Trump voters to switch sides is dead in the water. Focus on policies that directly benefit the people and get outta the billionaires pockets

Agreed. The Dems with money are stifling what would be a more resounding message of progressivism. Ive said on hear as a theory that the cultural stuff generally falls to the wayside if people actually feel like they can get ahead in life. we wouldnt see such a stark regression to tribalism and open white supremacy if times were good for enough people that they dont focus on the negatives in their lives overwhelmingly.

There has to be new crops of young progressives in the aftermath of this running for offices because it all starts local. The corporate dems are useless and incidentally remind me of some of the tangibles crowd (this is not meant to shyt on them): in a time where basic human rights are being eroded, and our futures are being stolen from under us, the focus is on trying to get something that’s not going to happen in this political reality. The corporate dims spent last year telling us correctly how terrible Trump would be, but are now focused on securing donor dollars and how to align with a more right wing
friendly ethos. The national Democratic Party has a real knack for missing the point and it’s especially jarring that they are doing this in the middle of a fascist takeover. The upside as we know the names of the folks holding us back. The question is what the hell are we going to do about it?

 

[Dzali OG]

I go with the OP. It's no different than how you deal with any know-it-all. You let them do them, and either they'll fall on their face or they may turn out do be right.

I really think each side should be given say....4 years of complete control. Then try the other side after the 4 years up. Let the people decide which system is best. The side that's chosen, then give them like 8-10 years.

I think something like this will allow people on the fence to see what side they really prefer.