Bloomberg’s Jason Schrier: "Xbox is a 'mess' right now, Plans change every year, Teasing "Handheld" right now"

[Rekkapryde]

Not really, at one point console gamers would have LOVED something like this not caring about developers having to do extra work.

Somewhere along the lines console gamers (Sony stans) became PC elitist and determined that the series S is holding gaming back as a whole and dumb, but in reality there is a market for it, and it's no skin off gamers back to insist that those type of options are always available going forward.

Instead they blamed the lack of generational leaps in gaming on 3rd party having to develop for the S and fast forward 4 years in and the PS5 potential is pretty much hard capped and they waiting to speed 700 plus on a pro version giving them there own little version of a PS5(S)

I guess now the PS4 and PS5 base is "holding games back".

Loser babble

 

[The Mad Titan]

Are you really trying to compare a company buying a talented undervalued studio and increasing that studio's value under it's leadership with a company buying one of the biggest publishers in the business and propping it's declining numbers up on that publisher's numbers? And you think these are equal? I'm not sure if you're serious here.

Are you really trying to act like Sony vastly improved these already extremely talented studios that were dropping great games IN THE MIDST of being purchased and not on the tail end?

Especially when it comes to Sucker punch and insomniac.

Stop man


Why is it that Sony can only increase the value of the studios they purchased that are already EXTREMELY TALENTED, and not the ones they've had in house that and spun off into there own studios failed or Sony cut ties with completely.

Maybe it's because those studios were already self-sufficient and extremely talented.

Meanwhile team ico, 989, studio Japan dissipate and get reassemulated and you want to pretend like it's some huge difference in buying an actual already talented and successful studio.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Loser babble

 

[CodeKansas]

They been made a Microsoft handheld.

It's called a SteamDeck.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Just letting everyone know its october 2024

 

[winb83]

This is all stan shyt.

Nutella and investors don’t care about your stan shyt

This is a video game fan forum. The people here don't give a fukk about what the investors want. We're talking about the direction and value of the brand to fans and you're insane if you think it's at an all time high. It's quite the opposite which is why hardware sales are doing so bad. Leadership's poor decisions did that.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This is a video game fan forum. The people here don't give a fukk about what the investors want

This is capatalism. You grow your business or you shut it down

Leave me alone breh

 

[Rice N Beans]

Own a Handheld that ain't got no games, breh.

May as well browse Dollar General on your phone. Similar experience.

 

[Fatboi1]

Sony is as "healthy and stable as they are because they bought, insomniac.

See how that works? And if we keeping going down that road you'll lead right back to the start of the PS1.


Using them buying Activision as a knock against them but not PlayStation is silly.



And going back to the "360 days" Xbox was in competition with Sony by doing the exact same thing Sony was, locking down games creating "exclusives" the Quality of games didn't change they just got locked down on whatever system instead of being multiplatform.

The thing is the Xbox 360 just had a year head start, which means it AUTO locked in exclusives by being the only system capable to do what it was doing

Now add on the price of the PS3, it being harder to develop for and games being ported from Xbox to PS3, and MS just locking down game exclusivity instead of partnering or trying to own.

Y'all have great memories of exclusives by way of the system being out a whole year before the PS3 and having superior graphics to every other console at that time.

It was a perfect storm.


And that's probably why you see Xbox attempt to beat Sony out the gate again and going forward consistently with hardware.

Oh yeah because obviously Ratchet and Clank didn't exist before Insomniac was purchased and Sony also bought them because of Spider-Man because it's not like Microsoft couldn't have done the same thing seeing as how they have Sunset Overdrive.

They bought Guerilla in 2005, way before Horizon and Killzone.

Same with Sucker Punch right? Who knew back in 2011 Sucker Punch would go on to make Infamous Second Son and then Ghosts of Tsushima and now Yotei!

Same with Santa Monica Studio and Naughty Dog. They all purchased them after they already had blockbuster games right?

 

[The Mad Titan]

Oh yeah because obviously Ratchet and Clank didn't exist before Insomniac was purchased and Sony also bought them because of Spider-Man because it's not like Microsoft couldn't have done the same thing seeing as how they have Sunset Overdrive.

They bought Guerilla in 2005, way before Horizon and Killzone.

Same with Sucker Punch right? Who knew back in 2011 Sucker Punch would go on to make Infamous Second Son and then Ghosts of Tsushima and now Yotei!

Same with Santa Monica Studio and Naughty Dog. They all purchased them after they already had blockbuster games right?

All your post does is agree with me, Sony didn't buy some small Indy teams, they both teams that were well established that had created stand out IPs or titles prior.

Let's not act like spiderman is insomniac best work, or 1st stand out game and Sony bought Guerilla Asap because literally everyone else was eyeing snatching them up at the time, just so happen Sony had already locked in a exclusive deal for like the whole generation.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

All your post does is agree with me, Sony didn't buy some small Indy teams, they both teams that were well established that had created stand out IPs or titles prior.

Let's not act like spiderman is insomniac best work, or 1st stand out game and Sony bought Guerilla Asap because literally everyone else was eyeing snatching them up at the time, just so happen Sony had already locked in a exclusive deal for like the whole generation.

All those games those teams created were under Sony not 3rd party games they acquired the rights of.

They were funded marketed and published under Sony. He’s not agreeing with you, it’s a fundamentally different strategy.

All those studios are what they are because of Sony funding and management before they were bought

 

[Fatboi1]

All your post does is agree with me, Sony didn't buy some small Indy teams, they both teams that were well established that had created stand out IPs or titles prior.

Let's not act like spiderman is insomniac best work, or 1st stand out game and Sony bought Guerilla Asap because literally everyone else was eyeing snatching them up at the time, just so happen Sony had already locked in a exclusive deal for like the whole generation.

No it doesn't, because these studios are now known for works that were created AFTER they were acquired and it also doesn't take into account Sony's own 1st party studios.

ND went from making Crash Bandicoot when they were not under Sony, to when it was with Sony, to making Jak, Uncharted and TLOU.

Insomniac were always making exclusive Ratchet and Clank games and Resistance. Only after SM did they get acquired, by then they were practically a 2nd party team.

Guerilla with Killzone and then Horizon. All made way after they were already acquired. Killzone 1 was in 2006, Guerilla was acquired in 2005. Please explain to me how Killzone 1 was somehow this juggernaut game?

How in the world you see this as the same as Microsoft literally buying ACTIVISION, a huge publisher that has a ton of ALREADY best selling IPs such as CALL OF DUTY, or Bethesda with Skyrim/Fallout is mindblowing.

It's the same reason why I don't associate Destiny's success with Sony even though they now own Bungie. That game was already established.


You're full of shyt when it comes to this discussion breh. Idk how you type this nonsense out with a straight face.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

I’d even go as far and say the majority of Sony’s big studios wouldn’t even exist right now if they hadn’t been acquired

 

[winb83]

Leave me alone breh

Your argument for me saying they're destroying the brand and weakening it is to say Nadella and the investors.

All you ever attempt to do is run to higher ground as the flood collapses your arguments.

You wanna talk about reviews and scores when Psychonauts 2 comes from Xbox Studios and it's a GOTY level game and Halo Infinite came out and got GOTY level nods but when Starfield comes out and doesn't get that and it's DLC comes out and gets shat on suddenly reviews don't matter so much or the reviews are in question.

You want to talk about console sales when COVID shortages depressed PS5 sales and the Xbox was doing better but once the PS5 is out selling the Series consoles 3 to 1 sales aren't important it's record revenue that matters.

It's funny you're all for the console wars when the arguments favor you. They're a winner when they sell more consoles but when they sell less they aren't a loser sales don't matter anymore revenue does. Nothing you say has any meaning because when the situation reverses you abandon your own logic.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Your argument for me saying they're destroying the brand and weakening it is to say Nadella and the investors.

The “brand” can’t be “weakened” and also the healthiest and most stable it’s ever been at the same time.
The only thing that’s been “weakened” is fanboy ammo. Which in the same on the other side as they drop their most popular games on PC, but yall don’t talk about that tho

All you ever attempt to do is run to higher ground as the flood collapses your arguments.

Breh, you’ve changed your argument with every post. You say some shyt. I debunk that shyt, you move on to the next argument.

You wanna talk about reviews and scores when Psychonauts 2 comes from Xbox Studios and it's a GOTY level game and Halo Infinite came out and got GOTY level nods but when Starfield comes out and doesn't get that and it's DLC comes out and gets shat on suddenly reviews don't matter so much or the reviews are in question.

No. YOU wanna talk about review scores.

If you wanted to be honest about context, you wouldn’t be comparing an optional DLC that only got 8 reviews, to full games with hundreds of reviews.

But you aren’t here to be honest, only to paint a narrative.

You want to talk about console sales when COVID shortages depressed PS5 sales and the Xbox was doing better but once the PS5 is out selling the Series consoles 3 to 1 sales aren't important it's record revenue that matters.

No YOU want to talk about console sales, cause that’s all you stans care about.

When we are talking about the health or viability of xbox as a business, console sales are not the most important metric. It’s just not. Even on sony side they’ve had to make some really drastic changes to their business despite selling more consoles.

But again. We don’t talk about reality here, only stan wars.

It's funny you're all for the console wars when the arguments favor you. They're a winner when they sell more consoles but when they sell less they aren't a loser sales don't matter anymore revenue does. Nothing you say has any meaning because when the situation reverses you abandon your own logic.

Hey man. All i said was that as a business xbox is doing just fine which is why the CEO is happy with the division and phil spencer leading it.

That reality sends you stans into a tizzy cause if flies in the face of the stan identity you built up over the years.

That ain’t my fault