Black men attendance of HBCU declining

[Sleepy Floyd]

A lot more black men are going into working trades or entrepreneurship. Also attending cheaper options such as community college

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Breh splitting facts.

 

[O.Red]

That tracks so how do we turn young black men on to the path of adjustment?

Incentive is always king. Everything else is noise

Black boys aren't taught, and don't see incentive in education. Why is that?

The answers to that question pertain to some very uncomfortable conversations

 

[O.Red]

As the daughter of a tradesmen the trade school route is oversimplified and a lot of young men go into that field thinking it’ll be an easy money making option besides college. A 19 year old isn’t going on a job site where the contractor is handing out 6 figures with a pair of boots and a tape measure. Most likely you’ll get handed a shovel and get paid some bullshyt while being an apprentice. Trades also take years of grinding through dirty work for lower wages and even still if you want serious money there are licenses and certifications to gain just like with a degree.

This is a fair point and I think it's important to add something I've witnessed Mexicans(and Asians to a degree) do

A lot of Latinos come up faster in trades because they were "training" before they were even adults. I remember talking to a 20 year old electrician once. When he told us what he does we were all because we thought he was just a clown ass nikka, but he was making bread

We ask how he started and he said his pops was taking him on jobs with him and would make him watch and learn. He was 15. I went on to find out this shyt goes on a lot

Where's the black equivalent to that situation?

One thing I will say that black folks won't address is how our independent spirit has been beaten out of us. Black folks will go hard for a "good job" and die getting that check and them benefits. Meanwhile these other communities are learning skills and trades and going into business for themselves. I see that shyt all over Houston

 

[O.Red]

Stronger community and actually calling out abusive mothers instead of constantly coddling them and running a narrative of them being the victim. We also need to address the anti-Black propaganda in our music/media these days.

Black children, particularly boys, can see how the community operates. We don't make safe spaces for them and most adults just don't care. The kids need to know how their mothers treat them isn't right and they need to know they have support from Black men to help them advance in life.

This shyt won't get addressed

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

This is a fair point and I think it's important to add something I've witnessed Mexicans(and Asians to a degree) do

A lot of Latinos come up faster in trades because they were "training" before they were even adults. I remember talking to a 20 year old electrician once. When he told us what he does we were all because we thought he was just a clown ass nikka, but he was making bread

We ask how he started and he said his pops was taking him on jobs with him and would make him watch and learn. He was 15. I went on to find out this shyt goes on a lot

Where's the black equivalent to that situation?

One thing I will say that black folks won't address is how our independent spirit has been beaten out of us. Black folks will go hard for a "good job" and die getting that check and then benefits. Meanwhile these other communities are learning skills and trades and going into business for themselves. I see that shyt all over Houston

I never understand why we are always putting other races on a pedestal.

The Latino guy's dad already worked in the trade and handed him a job. It's more nepotism than anything. Latinos and whites hire other Latinos and whites and bring their whole family in. Plenty of black people learn skills and trades. But people only care when Miguel and Pablo do it

 

[O.Red]

I never understand why we are always putting other races on a pedestal.

The Latino guy's dad already worked in the trade and handed him a job. It's more nepotism than anything. Latinos and whites hire other Latinos and whites and bring their whole family in. Plenty of black people learn skills and trades. But people only care when Miguel and Pablo do it

pedestal???

Yes it's nepotism. What's the problem?

 

[JT-Money]

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Hopefully they’re getting into trades. College is a waste of money unless you’re getting a good degree. And even then sometimes it could still be difficult to find decent job. One of my friends has a BS in chemistry and could only find a job as a teacher.

Honestly that's not surprising.

A B.S. in a hard science like chemistry, physics, biology etc., won't get you far despite being among the tougher majors.

Those are meant for folks either looking to be an MD or PhD.

Agreed that kids need SOMETHING post high school: trades, college, military etc. A high school diploma by itself isn't enough and hasn't been for awhile. My hunch is a lot of boys want to be successful but don't realize that you have to grind no matter which path you take. They want that influencer stimmy package but 99% of the podcast/IG/TikTok types make almost nothing.

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

Need a modern Bill Cosby type cat who makes folks interested in education

 

[Neuromancer]

We need more black doctors. My current doctor is a black dude with a Nigerian name but he's got a Brooklyn accent so I'm somewhat trusting. Young dude too.

 

[Dave24]

Historically, men often got cars, jobs, and housing to attract women and start a family. Marriage rates have increased over the last few years…we know many men are still marriage minded. The idea that men have killed their ambitions and no longer pursue success because “women are bad/hoes/mean/etc” is nonsense. It’s gonna be something else.

White men will say they don’t chase jobs because they don’t want slave wages…yet they don’t move an inch to pursue lucrative jobs that don’t require a degree.

My theory is that our society has reached a comfort point where a lot of men are content just to get by as long as they can play video games, watch movies, browse the internet, and buy some entertainment items. You can do that with a meh job and a roommate in many areas of the country. They have no interest in women, they don’t have basic social skills and they just want to be in a dark room by themselves after work.

@Piff Perkins using your own life, what motivated you to be successful and not complacent compared to other men?

 

[Piff Perkins]

@Piff Perkins using your own life, what motivated you to be successful and not complacent compared to other men?

My parents, plus wanting the freedom of having my own stuff. When I was a kid I'd constantly have my free time cut short because I had to help do something around the house. I'd finish my homework, get ready to do something I wanted to do (read, computer games, TV, etc) and bam...gotta go to Home Depot with my dad and walk around for an hour while he tries to figure out what he needs to fix something. Or bam...gotta go outside and dig holes for my mom because she wants to put some new plants in. Then I got to college and suddenly didn't have to worry about that stuff, but I still had to deal with my parents being nosy or wanting to see my grades or whatever.

Basically I just wanted to graduate, have success, get a place to live, and be free to do what I want. Now I got a gf who bosses me around but that's fine with me lol. I still get to most of what I want, I can afford the things I like, I enjoy my job, I make good money, nice house etc. Feels good not being dependent or held hostage.

 

[Problematic Pat]

You shouldn't be able to get a Pell grant if you're major is not in demand.

 

[Wild self]

You shouldn't be able to get a Pell grant if you're major is not in demand.

Problem is, the economy is changing at warp speed.

IT and computer majors aren't even employed due to AI and other factors. It's impossible to determine what's going to be in demand in the next few years, thanks to AI and automation.