Well hold on.
I never said Bijan Robinson was going to be a bust.
I never said he wasn’t a good prospect.
What I said was that he shouldn’t have gone 8th overall.
2023 Official NFL Draft Thread (April 27-29)
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I never said Bijan Robinson was going to be a bust.
I never said he wasn’t a good prospect.
What I said was that he shouldn’t have gone 8th overall.
Fair enough
Professor K.
rap game Paul Millsap
Was Sauce Gardner 4 rounds better than Tariq Woolen?
Our OL was one of the best in the league last year and is 3 1st rounders, a high 2nd rounder, and a 4th rounder at C, which is even less "vALuE" in the 1st round than a RB. If you don't know shyt about the Falcons, just say that.
Our QB was in a strange draft that only saw 1 QB go ahead of him that nobody should bet significant cash that he will be "2 rounds" better, and that's after 13 out of the 20 QBs taken in the 1st round the 5 years before that were either disappointments or flat out busts. But that's "VaLUe", right?
I could give a fukk about the narrative, a player who could potentially put up 2,000 all-purpose yards himself while opening up opportunities for the rest of the offense by taking attention from the defense is valuable as fukk
We’ll see.Was Sauce Gardner 4 rounds better than Tariq Woolen?
Our OL was one of the best in the league last year and is 3 1st rounders, a high 2nd rounder, and a 4th rounder at C, which is even less "vALuE" in the 1st round than a RB. If you don't know shyt about the Falcons, just say that.
Our QB was in a strange draft that only saw 1 QB go ahead of him that nobody should bet significant cash that he will be "2 rounds" better, and that's after 13 out of the 20 QBs taken in the 1st round the 5 years before that were either disappointments or flat out busts. But that's "VaLUe", right?
I could give a fukk about the narrative, a player who could potentially put up 2,000 all-purpose yards himself while opening up opportunities for the rest of the offense by taking attention from the defense is valuable as fukk
watch out for Tyrique Stevenson - 8th CB taken in the draft, late second round by Chicago
he has basically solidified himself as the Bears #2 CB already on the outside. Great speed & instincts, great ability to finish plays and tackles
I was at the game this past weekend and he was flashing, as he has all camp
looks like we got a good one, the Bears secondary is young and looking fast right now, I am super optimistic with this group
he has basically solidified himself as the Bears #2 CB already on the outside. Great speed & instincts, great ability to finish plays and tackles
I was at the game this past weekend and he was flashing, as he has all camp
looks like we got a good one, the Bears secondary is young and looking fast right now, I am super optimistic with this group
This is the same thing I was saying about Gibbs with the Lions pick as they were getting killed for it. Dude's gonna be used so multifunctional that you don't just value him like a rb. The dimensions he'll add to the offense splitting out wide as well as catching out the backfield should have him evaluated differently.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Exactly. The point is, a lot of these guys don’t know any of these players or watch them.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Bijan is different. Not just a “running back.”Was Sauce Gardner 4 rounds better than Tariq Woolen?
Our OL was one of the best in the league last year and is 3 1st rounders, a high 2nd rounder, and a 4th rounder at C, which is even less "vALuE" in the 1st round than a RB. If you don't know shyt about the Falcons, just say that.
Our QB was in a strange draft that only saw 1 QB go ahead of him that nobody should bet significant cash that he will be "2 rounds" better, and that's after 13 out of the 20 QBs taken in the 1st round the 5 years before that were either disappointments or flat out busts. But that's "VaLUe", right?
I could give a fukk about the narrative, a player who could potentially put up 2,000 all-purpose yards himself while opening up opportunities for the rest of the offense by taking attention from the defense is valuable as fukk
These dudes don’t watch these players. They just stick to the going cliché of the moment.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
What did you not see in the passing tree Robinson is showing that he could run? What are you not seeing?
BlueHeffner
Veteran
I agree. Just went through this with Zeke…
You keep insisting on driving the conversation toward Robinson's skill set.
I keep saying that's not the whole story.
Because the draft isn't about just taking good players. It matters where you get them.
You understand this, right? Sebastian Janikowski played 18 years and was one of the best kickers of his era. It was stupid to draft him 17th overall, right? Clearly you understand that. Now WHY do you understand that? Because you recognize that where you draft a guy matters as much as his abilities.
That's why I'm saying that Bijan Robinson can be a great player. But choosing to take him 8th overall when you could have had him later...or when you could have taken another player who might get you -- maybe not equal -- but very similar production, was a foolish decision.
I mean help me out here. What isn't clear about my point?
Professor K.
rap game Paul Millsap
Compare kickers to running backs brehs
I used a kicker to make a broad point about draft value.
Apparently you didn't go to a decent high school and so you don't understand.
Professor K.
rap game Paul Millsap
You used a KICKER drafted TWENTY-THREE years ago at least 100 spots ahead of the next player at his position to discuss a RUNNING BACK who was drafted FOUR picks before the next one
Jesus Christ, dude.You used a KICKER drafted TWENTY-THREE years ago at least 100 spots ahead of the next player at his position to discuss a RUNNING BACK who was drafted FOUR picks before the next one
The point I was making was about value. You really think I'm comparing Janikowski to Robinson?
You cannot be fukking serious.
