LIVE from Green Bay ... the Official 2025 NFL draft (April 24–26)

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Did you actually watch him and Cam Ward play? And by watch him play I don't mean highlights, I mean actual multiple games.

Yea I watched plenty of Shaduer and a good amount of Cam Ward, just because some GMs came together and decided to humble the kid doesn’t mean my eyes deceived me. Shaduer reminded me of Burrow the way he dissects the field

 

[VegetasHairline]

Shedeur Sanders is not a better QB than Cam Ward.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Yea I watched plenty of Shaduer and a good amount of Cam Ward, just because some GMs came together and decided to humble the kid doesn’t mean my eyes deceived me. Shaduer reminded me of Burrow the way he dissects the field

Sure, Joe Burrow if he never actually beat any good teams and if he took bad, drive-killing sacks instead of throwing the ball away.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Sure, Joe Burrow if he never actually beat any good teams and if he took bad, drive-killing sacks instead of throwing the ball away.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Or the GM didn't actually want him and only did because Haslem the big GOP donor and Browns owner told him to draft Shedeur.

I agree they didnt want him but it wasn't cause of his talent. So we need to stop pushing that narrative. He was a 1st round talent. But the point is to win games and select the best player available. So when you need a QB Under no circumstances would anyone place Gabriel over Shadeur. Nobody was mentioning gabriel in the top QB convo this past year and the stats and analytics they love to use don't support it.

Colorado had the most WR drafted this year and a hiesman receiver. That's not a coincidence. Somebody was delivering the ball to these guys. 5th round is absurd. Even had the top QB in the league Pat Mahomes baffled as to why he wasn't picked yet. That's a bad look when the players can tell something is wrong here and I trust their opinion over some random scouts. The players and his new teammates actually want Shaduer to succeed and want to play for him so the Browns cant just screw him over and not give him a proper chance. Fans love him too. Only ones hating on this kid are the GM's and coaches. Will be interesting seeing how it plays out.

 

[phillycavsfan]

I agree they didnt want him but it wasn't cause of his talent. So we need to stop pushing that narrative. He was a 1st round talent. But the point is to win games and select the best player available. So when you need a QB Under no circumstances would anyone place Gabriel over Shadeur. Nobody was mentioning gabriel in the top QB convo this past year and the stats and analytics they love to use don't support it.

Colorado had the most WR drafted this year and a hiesman receiver. That's not a coincidence. Somebody was delivering the ball to these guys. 5th round is absurd. Even had the top QB in the league Pat Mahomes baffled as to why he wasn't picked yet. That's a bad look when the players can tell something is wrong here and I trust their opinion over some random scouts. The players and his new teammates actually want Shaduer to succeed and want to play for him so the Browns cant just screw him over and not give him a proper chance. Fans love him too. Only ones hating on this kid are the GM's and coaches. Will be interesting seeing how it plays out.

Why would you trust people with less information at hand? Like, who would you trust to get directions to get around Paris, your best friend who visited for a weekend or a Parisien who's lived there for years?

Mahomes and the fans weren't at the combine or pre-draft interviews. The GM and coaches were, or at least they had representatives there.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

What does Kaepernick have to do with the Shedeur as it's not even close to being the same situation?

People have to stop using Kaep to help make Sheduer into a sympathetic figure as it's completely downplaying why Kaep did what he did and how Prime and Shedeur themselves into falling in the draft.

If he was as talented as him and his dad thought he was, then teams would have taken him high in the draft and not gave a damn about the other shyt like we've seen with other players. He wasn't the only QB that fell in this draft, which shows how ass they thought this class was.

Kaep is a legend in our community

Shedeur is a kid - a cocky kid (pause)

We 100% agree on this.

My point:

It is another example of the NFL owners and GMs working together to keep a Black man down.

That’s it.

What they have in common is: they are both outspoken.

Kaep in the right way (fighting racism)
Shedeur in the “wrong” way (telling teams who he won’t play for)

But it shows when a Black man takes a stance other than “yes sir I will play”

They shut them out and show us all who is in charge. It’s THEIR league and Black men just get to play in it - but not dictate anything.

And when Eli and his dad did it.. it wasn’t a problem now was it? He went to where they wanted him to go to (his pops and Eli).

 

[Bigwhite2498]

I agree they didnt want him but it wasn't cause of his talent. So we need to stop pushing that narrative. He was a 1st round talent. But the point is to win games and select the best player available. So when you need a QB Under no circumstances would anyone place Gabriel over Shadeur. Nobody was mentioning gabriel in the top QB convo this past year and the stats and analytics they love to use don't support it.

Colorado had the most WR drafted this year and a hiesman receiver. That's not a coincidence. Somebody was delivering the ball to these guys. 5th round is absurd. Even had the top QB in the league Pat Mahomes baffled as to why he wasn't picked yet. That's a bad look when the players can tell something is wrong here and I trust their opinion over some random scouts. The players and his new teammates actually want Shaduer to succeed and want to play for him so the Browns cant just screw him over and not give him a proper chance. Fans love him too. Only ones hating on this kid are the GM's and coaches. Will be interesting seeing how it plays out.

Here’s your answer: NFL Draft Takeaways: An Honest Discussion About Shedeur Sanders

 

[Blessings]

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Kaep is a legend in our community

Shedeur is a kid - a cocky kid (pause)

We 100% agree on this.

My point:

It is another example of the NFL owners and GMs working together to keep a Black man down.

That’s it.

What they have in common is: they are both outspoken.

Kaep in the right way (fighting racism)
Shedeur in the “wrong” way (telling teams who he won’t play for)

But it shows when a Black man takes a stance other than “yes sir I will play”

They shut them out and show us all who is in charge. It’s THEIR league and Black men just get to play in it - but not dictate anything.

And when Eli and his dad did it.. it wasn’t a problem now was it? He went to where they wanted him to go to (his pops and Eli).

No it wasn't because Eli and his pops had the TALENT AND LEVERAGE to dictate where he wanted to go, which is something Prime and Shedeur didn't have regardless of how they tried to spin it.

If Shedeur was actually as good as him and his dad hyped him up to be, then we wouldn't be having this discussion now.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Kaep is a legend in our community

Shedeur is a kid - a cocky kid (pause)

We 100% agree on this.

My point:

It is another example of the NFL owners and GMs working together to keep a Black man down.

That’s it.

What they have in common is: they are both outspoken.

Kaep in the right way (fighting racism)
Shedeur in the “wrong” way (telling teams who he won’t play for)

But it shows when a Black man takes a stance other than “yes sir I will play”

They shut them out and show us all who is in charge. It’s THEIR league and Black men just get to play in it - but not dictate anything.

And when Eli and his dad did it.. it wasn’t a problem now was it? He went to where they wanted him to go to (his pops and Eli).

Eli was the unanimous number 1 pick so his father got the privilege to tell teams who he wanted to play for.

Travis Hunter - a BLACK man - had the privilege to tell teams don't draft him if you're not letting him play offense and defense because he was a consensus top 3 pick. Cleveland didn't want to draft him as a result, but the Jags did because no matter where Travis goes he'll be one of the best, most instinctive athletes on the team.

You don't get to tell teams which teams you want to play for if you're a late first rounder (at best). Teams aren't supposed to make themselves more suitable for the likes of Jaxson Dart and Jihaad Campbell. Shedeur wasn't honest about his (few) flaws and teams didn't like that. Why spend a lot of draft capital on a kid that won't admit what he needs to work on to improve?

Jalen Milroe was a late day 3 pick when the pre-draft process started, but he shot up boards because he was honest to teams about knowing that though he is a terrific athlete (better than Shedeur) he knows he has a lot to work on to start in the NFL. He reportedly interviewed well and as a result the Seahawks drafted him in the third round to backup Sam Darnold.

 

[BucciMane]

People are forgetting that Eli DID get a lot of criticism for what happened on draft day. Yes, it wasn’t as much as what happened with Shedeur, but social media is 1,000 times more prevalent today. Add in the fact that Eli was the consensus first overall pick and didn’t have the same interview issues and antics leading up to the draft like Sabders, and other than looking at their situations on the surface, they aren’t the same.



If Shedeur was a Luck, Lawrence, or Caleb lever prospect, he would have gone first overall. NFL scouts and GM’s did NOT think he was as good as the MEDIA (need clicks) made him out to be. People let that impact their views as they keep thinking he was always going to be a top five pick or first round pick at worst. NFL teams clearly didn’t think so.



Now, is he a 5th round talent when compared to some of the other QB’s drafted and where they were drafted? Let’s say no, and that he’s better than some. If he’s not a first round talent, then teams might not want all of the extra stuff that will come with Shedeur if he isn’t going to be starting right away. You can deal with that with a franchise QB and top pick, but teams would rather not deal with the extra stuff if you’re not a sure fire stud in their minds.

 

[Left.A1]

“Some owners didn't like him going on about how he could turn their franchises around….. It was entitled”

These are the “bad interview” behavior the cacs have these c00n ass nikkas in here regurgitating lmao

 

[Left.A1]

Eli was the unanimous number 1 pick so his father got the privilege to tell teams who he wanted to play for.

other than looking at their situations on the surface, they aren’t the same.

No it wasn't because Eli and his pops had the TALENT AND LEVERAGE to dictate where he wanted to go

“Buh buhh buh If its all white its alright”





These are the kinds of nikkas that will be raising the black children of the future …. This shyt is embarrassing to even read

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

“Buh buhh buh If its all white its alright”





These are the kinds of nikkas that will be raising the black children of the future …. This shyt is embarrassing to even read

So we're pretending to play dumb like black athletes out here haven't been dictating where they wanted to go and successfully doing so