YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999

[mobbinfms]

To me a flop is an artist that sells significantly less than the previous after the current album's cycle

What constitutes significantly?

 

[JustCKing]

What constitutes significantly?

An artist selling a fraction of what they previously sold especially if there isn't much of a gap between albums.

 

[mobbinfms]

An artist selling a fraction of what they previously sold especially if there isn't much of a gap between albums.

99/100 is a fraction. Are you saying half? 2/3?

 

[JustCKing]

99/100 is a fraction. Are you saying half? 2/3?

99/100 isn't significant. I'm talking about a drop off of a 1/3 or more.

 

[mobbinfms]

The singles from Da Real World outperformed the singles from Supa Dupa Fly.

what is the basis for this?
obviously putting aside Hot Boys as the whole argument is whether the album was flopping in 99 before this single picked up steam.

 

[JustCKing]

what is the basis for this?
obviously putting aside Hot Boys as the whole argument is whether the album was flopping in 99 before this single picked up steam.

It's already absurd to call an album a flop when an album is still being promoted with videos and singles.

The basis for those singles being bigger are:

1) "The Rain" was single that didn't chart, but "She's A.." did.

2) "Sock It 2 Me" was the most successful single from her first album peaking at #12.

3) "All N My Grill" peaked higher than both "The Rain" and "Beep Me 911".

 

[mobbinfms]

It's already absurd to call an album a flop when an album is still being promoted with videos and singles.

Why?

 

[mobbinfms]

1) "The Rain" was single that didn't chart, but "She's A.." did.

Were you cognizant in 97-99? If so, was it your impression at the time that She’s a bytch was bigger than The Rain?

 

[JustCKing]

Why?

The album is still in cycle. She actually sold a little more the first week with Da Real World. Supa Dupa Fly set a record because in 1997, it was the first time a female rapper had sold that much. That record was broken by Lauryn in 1998 when she sold 400K+.

 

[JustCKing]

Were you cognizant in 97-99? If so, was it your impression at the time that She’s a bytch was bigger than The Rain?

I remember both songs being on the radio and receiving about the same amount of play. I remember the "She's A" video being huge and this was on The Box and BET.

 

[mobbinfms]

I remember both songs being on the radio and receiving about the same amount of play. I remember the "She's A" video being huge and this was on The Box and BET.

The Rain actually peaked at #4 on the Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs Chart.
She’s A bytch peaked at #30 on the same chart.

The charts comport with my recollection that The Rain was a much bigger song and She’s a bytch flopped.

 

[mobbinfms]

3) "All N My Grill" peaked higher than both "The Rain" and "Beep Me 911".

Not on the Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs Chart.
The Rain was #4.
All in My Grill peaked at #16. Beep Me 911 peaked at #13. Sock It To Me peaked at #3 and was #43 on the year end Hot 100 chart.

 

[mobbinfms]

To me a flop is an artist that sells significantly less than the previous after the current album's cycle.

What about how the singles perform? Is that irrelevant in considering whether an artist flopped?
What about the pace with which an album sells? Is that irrelevant in considering whether an album flopped?

 

[JustCKing]

The Rain actually peaked at #4 on the Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs Chart.
She’s A bytch peaked at #30 on the same chart.

The charts comport with my recollection that The Rain was a much bigger song and She’s a bytch flopped.

Rap airplay:

Missy Elliott Chart History

She's A bytch
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott
Peaked at #8 on 5.29.1999

I don't see anything for "The Rain".

Missy Elliott Chart History

All N My Grill
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott Featuring Big Boi & Nicole
Peaked at #2 on 11.27.1999

Missy Elliott Chart History

Sock It 2 Me
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott Featuring Da Brat
Peaked at #2 on 11.29.1997

The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott
Peaked at #5 on 8.23.1997

All N My Grill
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott Featuring Big Boi & Nicole
Peaked at #7 on 8.28.1999

Beep Me 911
Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott (Featuring 702 & Magoo)
Peaked at #12 on 2.28.1998

 

[JustCKing]

What about how the singles perform? Is that irrelevant in considering whether an artist flopped?
What about the pace with which an album sells? Is that irrelevant in considering whether an album flopped?

Singles are irrelevant because you can still do numbers with underperforming singles.

The pace an album sells isn't necessarily relevant. Do we call Illmatic a flop because it took a year and some change to go platinum even though it had several videos? No. Same for Reasonable Doubt.