YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999

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Q Tip benefited because this was the biggest song he was featured on. It wasn't for his album, but he could still claim he was a part of a song that made history.

Duh, of course people didn't know about the original "Hot Boyz" song, it wasn't the single. That isn't the argument. The argument was people actually blindly buying the album en masse thinking the remix was on the album. I'm sure some people blindly bought the album thinking the remix was on the album. Considering the cost of an album vs the cost of the single, many bought the album because they wanted the album and those who just wanted the single and were hip to it not being on the album, only copped the single.

"Hot Boyz" also dropped in the Fall of 1999, weeks ahead of Nastradamus.

Breh, there is no clear way of measuring chart performance vs cultural significance. One thing is definite though and that is the song had staying power(more so than "Love Is Blind"), which is a testament to its cultural significance.

Mase had a #1 single in "Feels So Good", "What You Want" was #6, and "Lookin' At Me" was #8. All of these songs were getting massive airplay. "24 Hrs. To Live" was the only one that wasn't a hit. And these were bigger than Puff's "bottom feeder singles". Mase was featured on Puff's first two singles and one of Big's singles and debuted on 112's "Only You" where Biggie also had a verse. Mase was getting the same amount of promo from Bad Boy if not more than Puff and Big. Mase was pushed. Puff wasn't even selling his own album on his own merits. It was Puff Daddy & The Family. Pretty evident that Mase was being pushed to the forefront. Biggie isn't even pictured on the front cover of the album, but Mase is. Biggie is on the back cover in a separate photo with Puff. Clearly he was pushing Mase to the forefront even while Biggie was alive. There's even a nice shout out from Biggie on "Victory" in the form of a slick double entendre (we just masing them /Mase & them) where he name drops each member of the family.
There was a clear difference between Mase’s first two singles and Looking at Me.
 

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you just killed your own point, posting that clip.

that's not even how the box channel looked in philly. the designs, the voiceover guy, the preview segments, etc. LOL. our chit didn't look like that.

and i'll give you jt the bigga figga, but i don't know why you keep bringing up ghetto mafia & major figgas. they were signed to major labels, and their bigger stuff was getting played on BET regularly so it was no big deal to see them on the box.
JT was signed to Priority in 95 but they did nothing for him.
 

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PLEASE STOP.

our chit never looked like that.

i never said that those groups were nationally popular. im saying they had national exposure on TV. youre talking about two completely different things.

i may be wrong about the label ghetto mafia was signed to, but they were regulars on BET and ive even seen them get daytime afternoon play outside of rap city.
I remember seeing Ghetto Mafia on BET too.
 

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They did all benefit. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Your memory of the song is irrelevant. The FACT is that it dropped weeks before Nastradamus. Your memory of 1999, has once again proved to be foggy at best. Don't really see how "Hot Boyz" dropping before Nastradamus strengthens your argument.

Where did I say the chart position of "Hot Boyz" was equivalent to cultural significance. I was pointing to its staying power.

Breh, "Lookin At Me" was a huge single in 1998 . Proven fact. And you're Savion Glover in regard to tap dancing around topics. I brought proof of Mase's push and all you can come up with is the lie that "Lookin At Me" wasn't huge.
Looking at Me wasn’t a huge single.
 

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There is also no evidence of them doing so as to avoid having the album looking like a flop.

My point is that it is common that albums get BOTH platinum and gold certifications on the same day vs getting the certification separately. Sometimes albums do get a gold certification on one date and a platinum certification on another. ALL of Missy's albums were certified BOTH Gold & Platinum on the same respective dates except Cookbook, which only went gold and Under Construction, which went 2X Platinum.
Under Construction was certified gold and plat the same day.
Da Real World took the longest to go platinum. A couple were platinum in three weeks. One took nearly 3 months.

The question still remains was Da Real World gold eligible at some point prior to February 2000? But we don’t have any evidence.
 

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Q Tip benefited because this was the biggest song he was featured on. It wasn't for his album, but he could still claim he was a part of a song that made history.

Duh, of course people didn't know about the original "Hot Boyz" song, it wasn't the single. That isn't the argument. The argument was people actually blindly buying the album en masse thinking the remix was on the album. I'm sure some people blindly bought the album thinking the remix was on the album. Considering the cost of an album vs the cost of the single, many bought the album because they wanted the album and those who just wanted the single and were hip to it not being on the album, only copped the single.

"Hot Boyz" also dropped in the Fall of 1999, weeks ahead of Nastradamus.

Breh, there is no clear way of measuring chart performance vs cultural significance. One thing is definite though and that is the song had staying power(more so than "Love Is Blind"), which is a testament to its cultural significance.

Mase had a #1 single in "Feels So Good", "What You Want" was #6, and "Lookin' At Me" was #8. All of these songs were getting massive airplay. "24 Hrs. To Live" was the only one that wasn't a hit. And these were bigger than Puff's "bottom feeder singles". Mase was featured on Puff's first two singles and one of Big's singles and debuted on 112's "Only You" where Biggie also had a verse. Mase was getting the same amount of promo from Bad Boy if not more than Puff and Big. Mase was pushed. Puff wasn't even selling his own album on his own merits. It was Puff Daddy & The Family. Pretty evident that Mase was being pushed to the forefront. Biggie isn't even pictured on the front cover of the album, but Mase is. Biggie is on the back cover in a separate photo with Puff. Clearly he was pushing Mase to the forefront even while Biggie was alive. There's even a nice shout out from Biggie on "Victory" in the form of a slick double entendre (we just masing them /Mase & them) where he name drops each member of the family.

The bolded is super erroneous...

Mase wasn't beng pushed ahead of B.I.G., he was the newer guy so of course, Puff was doing a big push on him but B.I.G. was still the flagship artist on the label.

The album cover thing is ducktales. The back cover with B.I.G. was photo work, not from a shoot. If you notice, Biggie is wearing the same thing he wore on the cover of Life After Death. Puff shot the actual cover with Mase, the Lox, and Rob AFTER BIG had died. Also the original name of the project was "Puff Daddy & the Goodfellas", which was to be comprised of all of them, basically introducing them (kinda like Dre used the Chronic to introduce Snoop, Rage, Kurupt, Daz, Nate, & RBX). So even if he had done the cover before Big passed, they were the focus of the ALBUM, but not THE LABEL.
 

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No particular order, but here's the 10:

Mobb Deep w/ Lil' Kim "Quiet Storm" remix
Dre w/ Snoop "Still D.R.E."
Nas "Nas Is Like"
Juvenile "Back That Azz Up"
Pharoahe Monch "Simon Says"
DMX "Slippin'"
Jay-Z "Jigga My nikka"
Snoop Dogg/Xzibit "bytch Please"
Cool Breeze w/ Dungeon Family "Watch for the Hook"
Q-Tip "Vivrant Thing"
 

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To me it flopped. You’re just explaining the reasons why.


that's not a flop.

you have to under-perform in order to be a flop.

if the label drops the ball, its kinda out of your hands. he sold two million with promotion that mirrors someone who sold half.:yeshrug:
 

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I agree that Hot Boys was a bigger song than Love Is Blind. Much bigger. I think @Wacky D is arguing Eve was culturally bigger than Missy so Love is Blind is culturally bigger? I’ll say that song wasn’t very big on the West Coast. What you want was much bigger.


"love is blind" is hip-hop's domestic violence anthem.

and Eve too it much futher than missy took "hot boyz". now granted, Eve being the hotter overall act may have played a role in that. sometimes those lines can get blurred.

but I would also say that "love is blind" was bigger than "what you want" as well.
 

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I remember Foxy talking about getting him on her second album because he was the next hot Southern rapper.
Juvy was definitely getting pushed in a way the other examples you have never got.


ehh, those were his examples, not mines.
and I agreed that juvenile was bigger than those groups he mentioned.
but im not gonna say MUCH bigger.

sure, rappers like jay & foxy prolly knew juvenile was next up, but the general public outside of the southern market weren't seeing that yet, particularly up north. that's all I was saying.
 
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And I am serious with the bolded. Anyone who bought any album for single that isn't even on the album LOST especially in the late '90's. They let you listen to samples in the store.


I guess the world was filled with losers then, cuz that was a common occurrence.
 

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How do you know what the Box looked like nationwide?


he doesn't.

hes just arguing just to argue at this point.

he rarely ever admits when hes wrong, and hes not one of those guys who disappears when hes wrong either.:laugh: he goes down swinging at all costs.
 

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I remember seeing Ghetto Mafia on BET too.


yep.

I remember them having a couple videos getting played on jam zone or cita's world or whatever was out at the time.

cracking that school hour playlist on BET in the midst of the r&b videos and the bigger rap hits, was a bigger look than simply having your name listed as an option on the box.:ehh:
 

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What did he say about Missy’s album taking so long to go platinum? The singles not connecting? The album debuting at #10 instead of #3?

He talked about that album at length. He said nothing about being disappointed in it. He talked about how Missy was nervous to record that album and second guessing herself and it taking longer to record.

I don't get why you're still stressing one album debuting at #3 and the other #10 when those positions are night and day considering the album at #10 sold slightly more in week 1 than the one debuting at #3.

Da Real World went platinum. What was there to be disappointed about?
 
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