I wonder why the label didn’t wait to get the remix on the album?
YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999
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Usually at a platinum or gold party the plaque is there. Obviously there weren’t any plaques in November 99.
I’ve never heard of a “trending toward platinum” party.
Do you have any evidence that her numbers were trending towards platinum? Whatbyou posted is an assumption.
Well, then provide proof instead of making assumptions and I'll do the same, which would include not asking my personal opinion on the subject?
This was their formula. The first three Missy albums all had remixes that weren't one the album:
Hit Em Wit Da Hee Remix- different beat, same verse from Kim as the original, new verse from Missy's artist Mocha, additional vocals from Kelli Price (not the famous Kelly Price), and a beat switch with ad libs from Timbaland. Not on album
Hot Boyz Remix- same beat with the same hook/chorus and ad libs from Lil Mo, but new verses from Nas, Eve, and Q Tip. Not on album
One Minute Man remix- single version has a Trina verse. This isn't on the album.
yea, but I remember it being listed as an option for months prior to that.
maybe "back that thang up" was just a listing up here in spring '99, that I didn't notice. I def don't recall it getting played that early.
there wasn't much of a "significant" difference.
you can say that HA was significantly bigger than the hits those groups had, but as an artist, he was seen as a gimmick/one-hit wonder at that point.
how is q-tip flopping neither here nor there, when youre up here trying to claim that everybody benefited from that song?? how the hell did he benefit when his album flopped??
a lot of people didn't even know about the hot boyz song, until the remix, which got hot in 2000. nastradamus came out in the fall of '99.
what i said was INDEED on the subject. hot boyz' performance on the charts was greater than its critical & cultural standing. it may have charted better than "love is blind" but i wouldn't say it was a bigger record.
outside of "feels so good", mase singles weren't getting as much of a push as the bigger singles from puff & big.
"tell me" was getting about as much play as the mid-range puff hits.
the other mase videos were in the same boat as their bottom-feeder singles.
theres a clear dropoff from mase's promotion in comparison to puff & big.
this is not a good example of the bullchit that you were trying to illustrate. you cant illustrate the point that you were making because you simply cant illustrate something that doesn't exist.
how is q-tip flopping neither here nor there, when youre up here trying to claim that everybody benefited from that song?? how the hell did he benefit when his album flopped??
a lot of people didn't even know about the hot boyz song, until the remix, which got hot in 2000. nastradamus came out in the fall of '99.
what i said was INDEED on the subject. hot boyz' performance on the charts was greater than its critical & cultural standing. it may have charted better than "love is blind" but i wouldn't say it was a bigger record.
outside of "feels so good", mase singles weren't getting as much of a push as the bigger singles from puff & big.
"tell me" was getting about as much play as the mid-range puff hits.
the other mase videos were in the same boat as their bottom-feeder singles.
theres a clear dropoff from mase's promotion in comparison to puff & big.
this is not a good example of the bullchit that you were trying to illustrate. you cant illustrate the point that you were making because you simply cant illustrate something that doesn't exist.
Q Tip benefited because this was the biggest song he was featured on. It wasn't for his album, but he could still claim he was a part of a song that made history.
Duh, of course people didn't know about the original "Hot Boyz" song, it wasn't the single. That isn't the argument. The argument was people actually blindly buying the album en masse thinking the remix was on the album. I'm sure some people blindly bought the album thinking the remix was on the album. Considering the cost of an album vs the cost of the single, many bought the album because they wanted the album and those who just wanted the single and were hip to it not being on the album, only copped the single.
"Hot Boyz" also dropped in the Fall of 1999, weeks ahead of Nastradamus.
Breh, there is no clear way of measuring chart performance vs cultural significance. One thing is definite though and that is the song had staying power(more so than "Love Is Blind"), which is a testament to its cultural significance.
Mase had a #1 single in "Feels So Good", "What You Want" was #6, and "Lookin' At Me" was #8. All of these songs were getting massive airplay. "24 Hrs. To Live" was the only one that wasn't a hit. And these were bigger than Puff's "bottom feeder singles". Mase was featured on Puff's first two singles and one of Big's singles and debuted on 112's "Only You" where Biggie also had a verse. Mase was getting the same amount of promo from Bad Boy if not more than Puff and Big. Mase was pushed. Puff wasn't even selling his own album on his own merits. It was Puff Daddy & The Family. Pretty evident that Mase was being pushed to the forefront. Biggie isn't even pictured on the front cover of the album, but Mase is. Biggie is on the back cover in a separate photo with Puff. Clearly he was pushing Mase to the forefront even while Biggie was alive. There's even a nice shout out from Biggie on "Victory" in the form of a slick double entendre (we just masing them /Mase & them) where he name drops each member of the family.
you just killed your own point, posting that clip.
that's not even how the box channel looked in philly. the designs, the voiceover guy, the preview segments, etc. LOL. our chit didn't look like that.
and i'll give you jt the bigga figga, but i don't know why you keep bringing up ghetto mafia & major figgas. they were signed to major labels, and their bigger stuff was getting played on BET regularly so it was no big deal to see them on the box.
