Don’t make disingenuous arguments.
YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999
- Thread starter Wacky D
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Yeah. You are clearly confused. Go back from the start and try to reread he exchange and get back to me.
Missy. Timbaland. Her label. Fans who wanted to see her chart higher.
Same position except her singles weren’t connecting, her album didn’t chart as high and it took 3.5 times longer to be certified platinum.
They can. This should've been mentioned before, but Supa Dupa Fly would've had to sell 145K per week after release to reach 1,000,000 copies in two months.
You don't necessarily have to sell 1M to get a platinum certification. The label has to apply for certification once they have data to prove that 1 million units have been shipped. The RIAA performs an audit and based on the audit, they certify the album or single. If that album meets requirements for platinum, it automatically gets a gold certification.
Now in Da Real World's case, Elektra could've been holding out for a platinum certification being that the gold certification would've been automatic. Also, "Hot Boyz" went platinum at the same time. So that's three plaques at the same time.
And Missy actually had platinum party for Da Real World in November 1999:
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^^^^ The Box logo on this shows that it was indeed available.
No it wasn't. It makes no sense that a video like Juve's would not appear on all playlists. When you look at the explanation, the only difference across the country was in regard to local, obscure artists. In which case, the playlist was customized to showcase those artists. Juvenile was not local or obscure.
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None of them have ever expressed disappointment in her debuting at #10. Again, you're grasping at straws and just throwing anything at the wall at this point. No proof. And you've conceded that she sold most of her copies in 1999. So I don't know what you're still harping on.
This wasn't label panic where they just started throwing records at the wall hoping something stuck. They already had these singles planned and in the pipeline prior to the album dropping.
And again, the chart position of the album is irrelevant. How much it sold is far more important.
Of course you don’t have to actually sell one million to get the plat certification. It’s shipments minus returns. So what is the relevance of what Missy would have had to sell in 97?
And this is not evidence of premature certification.
I would agree with you that Missy’s first album was certified platinum prior to actually selling one million copies, that seems like a reasonable inference based on the evidence. But I also know you don’t accept inferences or assumptions and demand proof. So where are the soundscan numbers week by week for both albums?
That’s an assumption. Why are you permitted to assume but I’m not in this discussion?
That’s embarrassing. Either that or fake it til you make it.
I’m not weighing in on the Juvenile aspect of the debate you and @Wacky D are having.
Clearly you’ve now agree that the Box was different across the country.
And the assumption that you are making isnt. even reasonable. Do you have actual proof that there was some mandatory nationwide playlist that the local Box affiliates had to play? Otherwise, since you are assuming, I will assume it would be more likely that Juvenile would have got more Box AirPlay in ATL than Philly.
Common sense does.
If you have an artist who goes platinum quickly with their first album, the follow up album only going gold in the same period of time would be perceived as a regression correct? The record label, which wants to make as much money out of Missy as possible, wouldn’t want that to be the perception if they could avoid it correct?
You mean publicly correct?
Would you expect them to express that publicly?