YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999

[mobbinfms]

Your chart positions argument. They don't tell you much. I could drop an album today that goes #1 and sell 50K. I could drop an album next week and it debut at #10 even though it sells 200K. Why? I dropped my latest album on a week where 9 other albums outsold mine.

So you would need to look at more data to evaluate your sales right?
Which is why I keep asking you how many #1 albums in 99 sold 121k or less.

 

[mobbinfms]

What? The albums I'm referring to all dropped in 1999 and some of them had previous albums that fared better in 1997.

The part I quoted has nothing to do with 97 so I have no idea why you’re bringing that up. Don’t pretend as if you don’t understand the entirety of the argument with respect to Missy’s album and try to reduce it to one single factor to serve your narrative.

 

[mobbinfms]

I'm showing you that 121K was enough for a #1 in 1999.

How many times?

 

[JustCKing]

Are you arguing Mary is more responsible for the success of the One More Chance Remix than Biggie????

No, I only posted that because he was implying that "Hot Boyz" remix was only huge because of the guest spots.

 

[JustCKing]

The part I quoted has nothing to do with 97 so I have no idea why you’re bringing that up. Don’t pretend as if you don’t understand the entirety of the argument with respect to Missy’s album and try to reduce it to one single factor to serve your narrative.

I don't have a narrative. I'm bringing up 1997 because you're comparing her 1999 album to the one she dropped in 1997. Were you not comparing the first week sales and chart position from 1997 to the first week sales and chart position of 1999?

 

[JustCKing]

The point is #7 is still disappointing.
Also, you make a strong argument that sales had increased quite a bit in 99 as opposed to 97.

#7 is disappointing to whom?

The increase if sales as a whole has nothing to do with individual sales. I just proved that a lot of artist's were selling less than 25% of what they did in 1997. Missy was pretty much in the same position she was in back in 1997 in 1999.

 

[JustCKing]

Why do you think the album wasn’t certified gold in 99 If it had sold over 500k?

There are a myriad of factors that it could be. No label is going to hold off on a gold certification to save face.

What likely happened is they just certified everything all at once. The single was certified platinum the same day the album was certified gold and platinum.

 

[mobbinfms]

I remember saying that and it applies. I mean, an artist comes out of the gate and does a certain amount of numbers, it isn't expected that those numbers will be bigger next go round without having logical reasons. Simply having a higher profile in comparison to the previous album doesn't translate into people buying the album.

It’s logical that when sales are higher, an artist will sell more.

 

[mobbinfms]

No label is going to hold off on a gold certification to save face.

That’s an assumption.

 

[mobbinfms]

You saying "I think she was gold" and "I think the label held off..." and "They probably didn't want to certify" is you speculating. Until you provide some proof, it's all null and void.

What proof is there to provide beyond what we already have?

 

[mobbinfms]

Again, albums receive gold and platinum certifications on the same day all the time. Nothing is gained or lost from certifying an album.

What’s your point?

 

[mobbinfms]

And since you're speculating, maybe Da Real World wasn't certified as fast because Supa Dupa Fly was certified prematurely and it actually didn't ship 1 million copies in two months. You don't know.

An album can’t be prematurely certified. The RIAA has to do an audit and confirm the shipments minus returns. Hence the word “certification”.

Taking the Reasonable inferences from the evidence we have, my Scenario makes the most sense. If you don’t want to use Reasonable inferences, we have to go back to she hadn’t shipped gold until February of 2000. But that contradicts the chart positions in 1999 to me, but I’m having to make a reasonable inference about what those chart positions mean. And as you’ve said repeatedly, they mean nothing.

 

[mobbinfms]

You missed this part and this is why BOTH of ya'll are WRONG:

Customized to the local market giving great exposure to more local and obscure groups.

^^ Juvenile was not some local artist. I could see if we were in here talking about JT Tha Bigga Figga, Major Figgas, or Ghetto Mafia. These would've been artists that we would've only seen in our respective areas. Juvenile was a National artist.

I’m not sure what you’re taking about here.
I thought the dispute was whether the Box was different across the country? Based on what i posted, it appears that’s the case.

 

[mobbinfms]

That is assuming that everyone who heard "Hot Boyz" remix overlooked the fact that it was not the original on the album.

Precisely.

 

[mobbinfms]

Just stop. I never once said Da Real World flopped. I said it sold slower than its predecessor. Didn't you just get through saying 400 Degreez was a slow burn? Yet, Missy's album is a flop.

I think you’re confused about what we are discussing here. Go back and reread the conversation.