YOUR Top 10 Singles Of 1999
- Thread starter Wacky D
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It doesn't work like that. Chart positions aren't necessarily disappointing because it's a ranking that is based on not only how an individual album performed, but also how well the competition did. And yes it matters if an album is at #1 with 650K. And you're proving the point, had those other albums not been in the equation, Missy would've charted higher.
Dog Based Gremlin
Veteran
Of course it’s the central issue
The placement would only be “irrelevant” if #1 albums were frequently selling less than 131k in 99. If 121k was the benchmark for a #1 album half the weeks in 1999 then I’d agree with you that the placement of Missy’s album was irrelevant and it was wrong to cite it as a factor in whether she flopped.
If 121k was the benchmark for a #1 album fewer than 10% of the time, then its an aberration and the placement of her album is relevant to whether the album flopped in 99.
Got it?
Never said 121K was the benchmark (it doesn't have to be), but you are still wrong to use chart placements as a criteria when it was not only proven that 121K got an artist a #1, but it was cited that Missy's 131K would've been enough to get her a Top 5. Furthermore you even killed you own argument with Supa Dupa Fly debuting at #3 in 1997, when it sold 129K. It's competition, Men In Black Soundtrack was #1 in its 2nd or 3rd week selling 169K.
No. It only went platinum:
I don't like using Wiki links, but this was fact checked with the RIAA:
The album was also certified Platinum by the RIAA on January 24, 2000 for sales of one million copies, and went on to sale 2,000,000 worldwide.
^^^ 2 million worldwide doesn't mean it went 2X platinum. It sold an additional 1 million copies outside of the U.S.
Still coppin pleas. You don't see me in here saying Elektra dropped the ball on Missy's album, yet you're on here talking about Juve didn't have promo, dissing Wayne because he got the same promo as Juve and pretty much every CMR artist who was dropping albums at that time.
I understand what you are saying. Still going Gold is a huge decline from going double platinum and it took that album over a year to go gold. Yet you got posters claiming Missy flopped, yet the album went platinum just like her previous one, but it took longer.
Rollo Goodlove
Palestine Titty
I remember listing to this at 4Well, "Hot Boyz", which still dropped in 1999 did result in a big single. She still sold 131K in week 1 without a runaway hit, which is why I don't understand how you're saying she should've sold more. Every other artist above Missy had bigger singles out. I understand why they led with "She's a bytch", because "bytch" was the original title of the album. Even with Timbaland on the boards not every song he produced was a hit.
I do know that they didn't intend to make Da Real World as an album designed to go Pop. They wanted it to sound different than her previous album and went for a darker, theatrical sound.
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And you're completely wrong. Again, I can post the charts that proved that this album got spikes even before "Hot Boyz" dropped.
You can't say that it wouldn't have went platinum without "Hot Boyz". Can't say that it would've either. Nobody knows. Fact is that is sold most of its copies BEFORE "Hot Boyz".
You're moving goal posts. Fact is DMX had three albums on the charts at the same time. His debut and sophomore albums dropped within months and "Ruff Ryders Anthem" was still big even when "Slippin" came out. Both albums were multi-platinum.
And yes, newcomers get more promo than flagship artists. Prime example is how hard Bad Boy pushed Mase or any of their newer artists.
And again, where did Wayne's Tha Block Is Hot have more promo than Juve? Wayne had two videos and one of them, as you admitted flopped. Juve's singles, both of them made some semblance of noise and he still only did Wayne numbers.
I saw the same Unsung episode. In context, they weren't even talking about album sales when Leelee said that song saved the record. This was said right after she said it was the only song she liked. Still, I stand corrected on her saying that song saved the record.
And no there wasn't two years between their sophomore album and this one. It was one year. SWV was Pop friendly even though they had that street edge.
Missy isn't all about numbers. There's articles before Da Real World dropped that refute that. Her and Timbaland are on record saying they wanted to make that album darker, theatrical, and more ghetto. Her words.
The only one that is retroactively going back I time here is you. You didn't even know "Hot Boyz" was the remix version that dropped in 1999. You thought it dropped in 2000 and were questioning why the original wasn't played. And again, you still have yet to produce any proof of this "list of flops".
Respectable = positive to neutral connotation
If Unspectacular = negative connotation.
They are not synonymous and they were not attempting to use them in a synonymous fashion.
This time of year is obviously a reference to prior years.
And again, it’s “normal times” as opposed to “any other week this year” because two of the three albums had been out for approx. two months.