"You got a bunch of 29/30 year olds trying to be acceptable to 16 & 15 year olds" - Chuck D

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But how could Chuck ride with Flav smokin rocks and say night of the living baseheads, clownin for VH1 and still kick revolutionary rhymes on stage and wax??
 

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Chuck D was 29 when Fight The Power dropped, I guarantee you there were mostly people younger than him buying their shyt. Young people 15-25 are always gonna be the biggest consumers of rap and pop, who else has time to look for new shyt, and who else doesn't think stuff from 15 years ago was better? You'll go broke appealing to older people with kids, jobs, and an attitude that everything was better in their senior year of highschool
 

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Enough is never enough..... if you ever start making big money you'll witness how little you have as you move in certain circles...trust me

Why should they help anyone ? Where was their help when they started ?

They really aren't in a position to change anything long term.......

Songs will NOT fix kids out of wedlock, police brutality or help kids create products and services/technology to enrich the black community

So why bother ?


Your ideals and beliefs reek of discontent and disappointment........why can't you be grateful that a "Jay-Z" even exist ?

Nas is an artist with a failed marriage and nowhere near financially secure .....

At what point does hiphop become greater than your personal life ?

The sheer level of thanklessness in this genre is disgusting .....


Jay should sell out even more and milk this sh!t for every single cent .......

Enough is enough, unless you wanna play silly childish status games. If I have 400 million, I'mma still keep making money, no doubt and do mad business but I'm also making sure I conduct myself responsibly too. But it's not about just money at all as I said. Where was their help? Really? Without the pioneers there would be no industry for him to make his money. He might have had to keep selling drugs and be dead or locked up. Songs DO help against all those things. So what? Nas still built schools in Africa, Nas still makes content filled songs. Hip Hop is a way of life, and it's a culture, it's not just about Hip Hop either, it's about the race, and justice.
 

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But how could Chuck ride with Flav smokin rocks and say night of the living baseheads, clownin for VH1 and still kick revolutionary rhymes on stage and wax??

Chuck has never endorsed that. Plus musically Flav's work PE is nothing like that, Chuck never sold out making that type of music.
 

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Chuck D was 29 when Fight The Power dropped, I guarantee you there were mostly people younger than him buying their shyt. Young people 15-25 are always gonna be the biggest consumers of rap and pop, who else has time to look for new shyt, and who else doesn't think stuff from 15 years ago was better? You'll go broke appealing to older people with kids, jobs, and an attitude that everything was better in their senior year of highschool

This doesn't make sense, Pac, Nas etc had mad content and still sold records, KRS-One sold millions of records. Lots of people with content have. You don't have to be meaningless to sell records. Infact a lot of the best artist have had content, Lauryn Hill sold mad records too.
 

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Hip Hop is at a place where the 90s OGs are actually still relevant (I despise this term but whatever) in the eyes of listeners. Chuck D, Rakim, KRS are not really... Therefore I truly see this as a chance for the OGs to give more mature, responsible (?), meaningful, substantive content personally...and carve a new lane.

That's why Life Is Good is so great to me. Daughters, Reach Out, World's An Addiction, Back When, Cherry Wine, Bye Baby - all great songs and appropriate to make, addressing some real shyt. And it's cohesive too. Jay on Magna Carta has his moments - he more sprinkles wisdom, in his own Jay way, which is fine but I feel his song making abilities have worsened (I gotta listen to Magna Carta again actually to get a better view)

Also, although Andre is one of my favourites, I feel his stance on being old a bit shaky because again, I feel Hip Hop is at a place where OGs can create newer, "age appropriate content" - there's listeners for it now as oppposed to the early stages where it was still developing...



Just my 2 pence...
 

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When you defend indefensible things irrationally that's being a stan. Lol be serious, it's not about that, I've explained to you the same things NUMEROUS times lol. I've never sold drugs, not even once, it's not about drugs, it's about content within the music and having substance and integrity. KRS-One or Chuck D ain't going around talking about selling drugs unless it's a story lol.
Do the kids understand that it's a story though?



Do these irrational fukkbirds understand that this is just a story?


What do I defend that's "indefensible"? :what:.


I hope that you understand that you just made a statement about yourself, regarding indefensible.
 

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Hip Hop is a young culture comparatively, this means we can innovate, people like KRS and Chuck are doing just that. Add K-Rino, and many elder MC's that's swords are still sharp.

How dare these punks try tell the pioneers and legends what to do in THEIR shyt. KRS said he will be rapping when he's 70 and I believe him. He IS Hip Hop. If rock artists or whatever can do that so can rappers. I'll always be fukking with the real, fukk age.

Life Is Good was dope and that's the point, Nas is an innovator and about something and about the culture, a lot of his latter records have been on a mature grown man tip and he's clearly a GOAT.
 

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Do the kids understand that it's a story though?



Do these irrational fukkbirds understand that this is just a story?


What do I defend that's "indefensible"? :what:.


I hope that you understand that you just made a statement about yourself.


It's about balance, I could counter this with countless positive substantive filled Nas songs. But we know them already...
 

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Numerous legends are still touring, recording and making money. Without compromising their integrity. Money isn't 0 or a billion, we need to get that bullshyt out of our heads. You getting 10 - 15 thousand for an hour or 2's work and that is fukking great money.
 

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Chuck has never endorsed that. Plus musically Flav's work PE is nothing like that, Chuck never sold out making that type of music.

Just playin devil's advocate like when Common got on Cube slangin St Ides and bean pies in the same sentence...Chuckalways pushed for change when a lot of his homeboys sold out for small corporate change *smh*
 
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