"You got a bunch of 29/30 year olds trying to be acceptable to 16 & 15 year olds" - Chuck D

[Harry B]

It's about balance, I could counter this with countless positive substantive filled Nas songs. But we know them already...

When you defend indefensible things irrationally that's being a stan.

It's all good though.

Are we talking balance? Are these irrational kids supposed to make an active decision regarding which songs to be affected by? Or should they balance their way of life? Murder people on Tuesdays and do charity on Wednesdays?

I don't believe that rappers have a major impact on the streets regarding anything of significance but are a product of the streets. That street nikkas rapping exists just gives them something to listen to which they can relate to.


It's all about making dope music, tell these socially conscious rappers to make hits, shyt you can party to, some happy music and on. They want balance but all they do is talk about the negatives, what if I want some happy shyt?

Also being conscious does not equal being conscious about whats going on in the hood. It can be anything from relationships (sexual relationships, friendships, family), trust, love, hate and on. As long as you are evaluating the topics consciously and not just trying to sound cool and shyt.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Just playin devil's advocate like when Common got on Cube slangin St Ides and bean pies in the same sentence...Chuckalways pushed for change when a lot of his homeboys sold out for small corporate change *smh*

Yeah, plus you can only be responsible for yourself not your people, you can't help who your family are and who you love. I have friends who have done dumb shyt too, unless it's something like unjust murder, racism, sexual abuse etc then I'm not gonna stop speaking to them. If they for instance smoke too much weed I might not agree with it but it's their life, I can only advise them, they grown, don't mean I will disassociate with them just for that though. Has to be something serious to make you cut ties.

 

[The Ruler 09]

It's all good though.

Are we talking balance? Are these irrational kids supposed to make an active decision regarding which songs to be affected by? Or should they balance their way of life? Murder people on Tuesdays and do charity on Wednesdays?

I don't believe that rappers have a major impact on the streets regarding anything of significance but are a product of the streets. That street nikkas rapping exists just gives them something to listen to which they can relate to.


It's all about making dope music, tell these socially conscious dumb smart fukks to make hits, shyt you can party to, some happy music and on. They want balance but all they do is talk about the negatives, what if I want some happy shyt?

Also being conscious does not equal being conscious about whats going on in the hood. It can be anything from relationships (sexual relationships, friendships, family), trust, love, hate and on. As long as you are making evaluating the topics consciously and not just trying to sound cool and shyt.

If you get solely negative it's negative, if you get a balance you can be more balanced. This doesn't add up, you can't say Chuck D, KRS-One music is more negative than positive, cause it's not, particularly when you compare to rappers who's majority of their work is negative and destructive.

Well they do have an impact, some of the rappers helped gang truces which saved lifes and helped lowered murder rates.

Mm, the rest of what you said is too dumb to warrant a response.

 

[Mike Otherz]

Not all women concedes to this shallowness, tho

@The HONORABLE SKJ, The Man The Myth The Legend in your AVI is

BLACKEXCELLENCE, on a hundred, thousand, trillion - LITERALLY. I'm just now studying his GOAT entrepreneurship enterprise

...and, he has absolutely no penchant to be AWLL up in them cameras

he's michael to don kings vito.

 

[The Ruler 09]

nikka can u read ?

I can read, but I still don't understand the logic in your dumb ass statement. Cause there isn't any, just a continuation of your played out gimmick. Grow up and stop being so concerned about which part of land someone came out of someone's p*ssy.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Thank you brother Chuck!

 

[Cynic]

Enough is enough, unless you wanna play silly childish status games. If I have 400 million, I'mma still keep making money, no doubt and do mad business but I'm also making sure I conduct myself responsibly too. But it's not about just money at all as I said. Where was their help? Really? Without the pioneers there would be no industry for him to make his money. He might have had to keep selling drugs and be dead or locked up. Songs DO help against all those things. So what? Nas still built schools in Africa, Nas still makes content filled songs. Hip Hop is a way of life, and it's a culture, it's not just about Hip Hop either, it's about the race, and justice.

Income ascension is not a childish status game. It's serious business. The guy just purchased a tech company and a stake in his fave champagne brand.

That's ownership not "childish status games". Your limiting beliefs don't apply to high achievers.....Enough is never enough.

How is Jay not conducting himself responsibly ? Once again your ideals keep poppin up

Hiphop isn't in it's infancy so why should even bring up pioneers ? Jay is a capitalist not a pioneer

We've been hearing songs for damn near 30 years ...... what's changed ? besides individual advancement

Nas is a true artist ....but look at what they've accomplished career wise and relationship wise .....Nas isn't even in the same league

It's about thanklessness and expecting artists to do something.....fukk that.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Income ascension is not a childish status game. It's serious business. The guy just purchased a tech company and a stake in his fave champagne brand.

That's ownership not "childish status games". Your limiting beliefs don't apply to high achievers.....Enough is never enough.

How is Jay not conducting himself responsibly ? Once again your ideals keep poppin up

Hiphop isn't in it's infancy so why should even bring up pioneers ? Jay is a capitalist not a pioneer

We've been hearing songs for damn near 30 years ......

Nas is a true artist ....but look at what they've accomplished career wise and relationship wise .....Jay isn't even in the same league

It's about thanklessness and expecting artists to do something.....fukk that.

When it becomes a status symbol and how much you spend in a club or spend on jewellery in 1 night it is. If you doing constructive shyt with it too, but we know what a lot of these people are. It isn't about limiting, you can be a billionaire and maintain and GROW that wealth and still do shyt. I said numerous times it's NOT just about money at all.

It isn't just my ideals, it's Hip Hop's ideals, if you are anti Hip Hop ideals but are using the vehicle you are pretty much exploiting the culture.

You asked me about who he owes, I just told you, I'm not saying he has to hit them off with 10 mil or nothing but there's much more that can be done, shyt that can make him money too.

I don't know why you're talking to me about Nas's relationships, I'm talking about music. Nas is a millionaire and has done great things in that regard TOO, it's NOT mutually exclusive.

 

[aboss4real24]

I can read, but I still don't understand the logic in your dumb ass statement. Cause there isn't any, just a continuation of your played out gimmick. Grow up and stop being so concerned about which part of land someone came out of someone's p*ssy.

aint no gimmick nikka

this is real shyt

and cube had records dissing the east

and then his bytch ass mkn records wit ny artist

im actually more mad at chuck d n public enemy 4 lettn that shyt happen

 

[Mike Otherz]

The point is where you have more than ample enough and where it becomes negligent to not help your people. These dudes are in the position to change the world, they don't want to cause they want to chase unnecessary bank account figures as a status symbol rather than use their money in a way that could really make a difference. I'm not even saying that point is a million or 2, but when you worth 400 mil you can do some things lol. Also it's far from just about money, he doesn't have to do what he does for money, he's in complete control to do what he wants and it would still sell. It is my beliefs but it's also what Hip Hop is about, it's not about just money, but I don't wanna go at Jay Z cause he has done things, it's just that he could do more in his position, it doesn't even have to be about giving money, it can be about having some songs that are about something on each project. If he utilized his potential fully he could do so much more. Exactly and this is way bigger than art, money or anything. This is integrity, Hip Hop culture and humanity. And I'm far from saying he's the only 1 responsible, but he didn't have to do so much questionable things to try keep relevant, at his age too it looks kind of fukked up. Nas is younger and his music is MUCH more substance filled.

i actually think jay would make better music if he stopped trying to go platinum. shyt, he dont even have to stop trying to go platinum, just put out a mixtape with the real shyt to live alongside ya album of attempted hits.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

"It's the fault of punk adults who are afraid to check a young cat like that"

People wanna be acceptable to little 13/14/15/16 year old kids instead of being adults. That's why I respect rappers like Nas that don't completely dumb themselves down, and rappers who are dope yet act like adults, KRS-One, Wise Intelligent, Rakim, K-Rino, Brother Ali and a bunch of others.

Chuck speaks the truth once again

I already said that rappers have a serious case of Peter Pan syndrome...that coupled with a historically negative display of black male stereotypes creates a dangerous situation. Hip hop is the only genre of music where it's artists aren't trying to mature.

 

[The Ruler 09]

aint no gimmick nikka

this is real shyt

and cube had records dissing the east

and then his bytch ass mkn records wit ny artist

im actually more mad at chuck d n public enemy 4 lettn that shyt happen

Come on, even you know it's a gimmick, stop it lol.

fukk that east or west shyt, it's all about the individual. It ain't where you're from it's where you at - Rakim and that's someone from the EAST.

Ice Cube said real shyt on the record, what you mad about? KRS dissed Queens but still did the album with Marley. Mad people squashed that B.S, why you so late? Lol. Stuck in a time capsule and shyt lol

Are you telling me if you meet a bad bytch or a great woman from the West you won't fukk or wife her cause of where she from? Lol.

And why do you sound like you just found out lol, shyt was something like 20 plus years ago lol.

 

[The Ruler 09]

i actually think jay would make better music if he stopped trying to go platinum. shyt, he dont even have to stop trying to go platinum, just put out a mixtape with the real shyt to live alongside ya album of attempted hits.

Course he would, that goes without saying, he doesn't want to fukk up his brand by not going platinum every time. But he could make dope shyt and still be successful. B.P.3 wasn't a bad record to me, I liked that, that last shyt was trash though...

 

[Flav]

aint no gimmick nikka

this is real shyt

and cube had records dissing the east

and then his bytch ass mkn records wit ny artist

im actually more mad at chuck d n public enemy 4 lettn that shyt happen

How the fukk is this fool not banned yet?

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

"I'm just normal and everything else has slipped a notch"

So much shyt is dumbed down it's normal to be a dumb ignorant backwards ass motherfukker now.

Thankfully we have people like Chuck D to represent.

That's just what happens with the times.

Stuff that's "acceptable" now was not 20 years ago. Some of it is good, some of it is not.

Hip hop was once a progressive artform....now its regressive.