The point of the whole shyt is that "nikkas on the block/ratchet hoes" culture is 12-16 year old shyt, which it is. Rappers are amongst the fakest people on the planet. Rap has been ignorant for so long now since the late 90s that the children that were influenced by that shyt have grown up and are making dumbed down music for impressionable children now, molding them to ultimately go backwards in society. My favorite point in the video is that he said "I'm not deep, I'm not even being deep, 20-30 years ago this would just be called common sense".
"You got a bunch of 29/30 year olds trying to be acceptable to 16 & 15 year olds" - Chuck D
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The point is where you have more than ample enough and where it becomes negligent to not help your people. These dudes are in the position to change the world, they don't want to cause they want to chase unnecessary bank account figures as a status symbol rather than use their money in a way that could really make a difference. I'm not even saying that point is a million or 2, but when you worth 400 mil you can do some things lol. Also it's far from just about money, he doesn't have to do what he does for money, he's in complete control to do what he wants and it would still sell. It is my beliefs but it's also what Hip Hop is about, it's not about just money, but I don't wanna go at Jay Z cause he has done things, it's just that he could do more in his position, it doesn't even have to be about giving money, it can be about having some songs that are about something on each project. If he utilized his potential fully he could do so much more. Exactly and this is way bigger than art, money or anything. This is integrity, Hip Hop culture and humanity. And I'm far from saying he's the only 1 responsible, but he didn't have to do so much questionable things to try keep relevant, at his age too it looks kind of fukked up. Nas is younger and his music is MUCH more substance filled.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
He's right. But when isn't he?
The God Poster
LWO representa
Lotta valid points folks
No, a lot of them are, the likes of Drake knows a huge part of his fan base is the kids. And all he does is poison them.
I don't know why I would be a Drake stan, cause I like a lot of his music?
I like Nas's music more, would that make me a Nas stan? I don't give a fukk about where you are from, you saying that you are doing something, rapping about you are living something, limiting your vocabulary, living vicariously through other people to make some dope music or to sell records is fine with me. Although I'm against promoting murder on brothers and stuff, but I get that its art like a movie or documentary, that some people might be incapable of doing so is another story. It's however "dumbing down", you are not delivering the conscious and thought provoking shyt that you are capable of.
I don't understand what you are saying.
The God Poster
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Elaborate breh...
FeloniousMonk
Dont mind me..Im a azzhole
Well when you have no creative control and have to submit that album under certain requirments, rappers know the music they have to submit in order to get a release date.
Not to many rappers can make any kind of music they see fit and expect the label to release on thier terms.
Enough is never enough..... if you ever start making big money you'll witness how little you have as you move in certain circles...trust me
Why should they help anyone ? Where was their help when they started ?
They really aren't in a position to change anything long term.......
Songs will NOT fix kids out of wedlock, police brutality or help kids create products and services/technology to enrich the black community
So why bother ?
Your ideals and beliefs reek of discontent and disappointment........why can't you be grateful that a "Jay-Z" even exist ?
Nas is an artist with a failed marriage and nowhere near financially secure .....
At what point does hiphop become greater than your personal life ?
The sheer level of thanklessness in this genre is disgusting .....
Jay should sell out even more and milk this sh!t for every single cent .......
It was uploaded to youtube 5 years ago...the clip itself is closer to 15 yrs oldThat dropped 5 years agoSad thing is you can't even tell.
Still relevant tho
I think mainstream is pretty dope & diverse today, these one hit wonders might disturb the order (and Iggys and shyt are not hiphop) but overall I'd say that its looking up.Chill b. This is a bait thread.
The entire mainstream hip-hop is a fukking fraud. Broke rappers talk intelligence and realness cos that's their last resort, when you ain't poppin, of course you gonna preach "I was bout that street smarts anyways" shyt.
Once you get the chance to get some of thatmoney, you're quick to jump on that 808 kick snap snare radio single.
Gotta pay the bills yo
I still think a lot of these conscious rappers overrate their (and "ignorant" rappers) significance.
Just cause people listen to Drake won't turn them into jewish simps making money. Listening to Jay-z won't increase your ambition to move kilos or climb the corporate ladder. Listening to Eminem won't make you hate gays, shoot up school and make you hate your mom and baby moms.
When all black music was soul & love through Jazz, R&B and Blues, we had as many or more drug slingers as we have today. They might change your swag, the way you talk but to make life altering decisions you'd need a bigger push than a rapper. Unless you have extreme problems, which no musician can solve.
If anything, if cats actually were that affected rappers like Drake would make kids do shyt kids should do.
Broads, clothes, school, instagram, work, party and on. Like your average suburban kid.
When you defend indefensible things irrationally that's being a stan. Lol be serious, it's not about that, I've explained to you the same things NUMEROUS times lol. I've never sold drugs, not even once, it's not about drugs, it's about content within the music and having substance and integrity. KRS-One or Chuck D ain't going around talking about selling drugs unless it's a story lol.
jilla82
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Its not a black issue...its a society problem.
Not to sound like an old man...but regular social norms and considerations have been thrown in the bushes.
Family, hard work, monogamy etc... are no longer held in esteem...its all about YOLO, drug use, women thinking they can fukk whatever, men thinking they can fukk whatever.
One night, spend some time and watch the Country Channel (I forgot the name of it)...its the same bullshyt...people getting drunk, low class trailer park trash acting a fool, and ignorance being awarded.
So its not just black people...its just that these issues affect those at the lower rung of society the most because they either actually believe the bullshyt on TV...or they dont have the (mental) resources to rise above it.
Not to sound like an old man...but regular social norms and considerations have been thrown in the bushes.
Family, hard work, monogamy etc... are no longer held in esteem...its all about YOLO, drug use, women thinking they can fukk whatever, men thinking they can fukk whatever.
One night, spend some time and watch the Country Channel (I forgot the name of it)...its the same bullshyt...people getting drunk, low class trailer park trash acting a fool, and ignorance being awarded.
So its not just black people...its just that these issues affect those at the lower rung of society the most because they either actually believe the bullshyt on TV...or they dont have the (mental) resources to rise above it.
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