Ya have any desire to change your last name (Slave name)

[BigMan]

I think everyone (black slaves) in the South once talked that way but once it was documented and we can see proof of it, the rest of the South outside of the Sea Islands were speaking something related but different. Even when the white minstrels were trying to mock slave speech from the 1800's, it looked/sounded different from Gullah.

i believe that is because of high amount of contact between whites and blacks in the US. in other places with African slavery, there were few whites. in places that did have a lot of whites, you see that the creoles decreolized into dialects that closely resemble the standard form of English spoken in that country. For example, the US and Barbados had large white populations so their present day dialects closely resemble the standard. In places like Haiti or Suriname, there were very few whites left so the creoles continue to develop separately from their superstrate.

for example

Sranan Tongo (English based but unintelligible to English speakers)

Bajan (much closer to standard English)

(Bajan English)^^


(Bajan Creole)

 

[BigMan]

Bajans speak fast boy

 

[Whogivesafuck]

that's usually the argument coli dudes make

Well what I was gonna say was most of my relatives down south speak what you would consider Plantation creole. I remember in the booth someone posted a Webbie breakfast club interview .That's when I notice the poster blackthoughts wasn't black before he got exposed.. Blackthoughts said he couldn't understand Webbie. This is odd for a thirty plus black man from California. Most of our parents and grandparents are from Northern Louisiana and Texas and speak with a thick dialect similar to his.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

i believe that is because of high amount of contact between whites and blacks in the US. in other places with African slavery, there were few whites. in places that did have a lot of whites, you see that the creoles decreolized into dialects that closely resemble the standard form of English spoken in that country. For example, the US and Barbados had large white populations so their present day dialects closely resemble the standard. In places like Haiti or Suriname, there were very few whites left so the creoles continue to develop separately from their superstrate.

true

for example

Sranan Tongo (English based but unintelligible to English speakers)

I think I heard one english sounding word

 

[BigMan]

Well what I was gonna say was most of my relatives down south speak what you would consider Plantation creole. I remember in the booth someone posted a Webbie breakfast club interview .That's when I notice the poster blackthoughts wasn't black before he got exposed.. Blackthoughts said he couldn't understand Webbie. This is odd for a thirty plus black man from California. Most of our parents and grandparents are from Northern Louisiana and Texas and speak with a thick dialect similar to his.

I must say the Louisiana accent is very hard to understand. Probably due to the unique culture and history of Louisiana . I can barely understand people from the Gulf Coast /Delta area but thats mostly because of accent/pronounciation differences and distinct slang.

Like when texas cats say down, it sounds like "dine" to me

 

[IllmaticDelta]

actually I heard almost 10

 

[thaKEAF]

I've thought about it. My kids are definitely gonna have traditional African names, my girl and I already agreed to that.

 

[BigMan]

true





I think I heard one english sounding word

Suriname is crazy (my granddad from there). One of the most diverse places in the world. Sranan comes from english as the english originally controlled Suriname. Howver the dutch traded new york (hold this L Netherlands) for Surinames (age of sugar breh) so the English influence was replaced by heavy Dutch influence. Years ago when they starting researching it they found that its roots are English.

The History of Sranan, A Language of Suriname

But in 1667-68, a major change occurred. The Dutch gained control of Suriname, and consequently most of the English and their African slaves gradually left over a period of nine years (1671-80). The Dutch continued to bring new African slaves to Suriname, but the English-based language somehow lingered. Even though the Dutch ruled the country until 1975, surprisingly enough the first recorded information on any language spoken among the Africans is English, in 1693. But according to linguists Lilian Adamson and Norval Smith, “How precisely English functioned in the development of Sranan is highly controversial” (220). Lack of recorded data has left linguists perplexed about the early years of this interesting mixed language. Such a contact of diverse peoples, each with different linguistic backgrounds, explains where Sranan gets its vocabulary from. In a random sampling of 476 Sranan verbs, 44% were English-derived. About 40% of the words were from Dutch, 5% came from Portuguese, 2% had African origins, and 9% had unknown origins (Voorhoeve and Lichtveld 241). This creole language, which began as a simplified pidgin, came about as an effort to communicate with speakers of other languages and developed into modern-day Sranan.5

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Check out this weird/old Virginia style Afram dialect/accent

 

[BigMan]

Check out this weird/old Virginia style Afram dialect/accent

strange accent

 

[BigMan]

@IllmaticDelta

To be sure, there were all kinds of mobile jocks in New York in the early 70’s. Hands down, no questions. I’ve always asked the Bronx cats that I’ve interviewed this one important question, “Yo, what impact did the Jamaican sound systems have on ya’ll?”

Everybody from Toney Tone to Kool Herc to Bambaataa said: “None, none at all. They weren’t a part of our thing. They did their own thing.”

Which is more than likely true, with one exception Grandmaster Flash’s sound system the Gladiator was built by some Jamaican brothers on Freeman Street. And in Brooklyn, there is no way in the world those dudes in Brooklyn could not have heard the different sound systems. Deejay culture in Jamaica goes back to the 50’s!

random but what do you think of this quote

 

[notPsychosiz]

We ain't never getting that shyt fam

I'm getting mine.
Bet.

Only way I'm not getting whats owed me is if there is no one left to extract it from.

 

[godkiller]

Tons of African names are of Arab, Indian and European origin.

Traditional African names aren't of Arab, Indian or European origin. Ndamakong Suh is one such thing.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

everyones changing their name to british names tbh. for example when you call a call center what name do they use? asians all have english sounding names. its the current wave. when arabs ran the show, it was the same thing.

whats funny is I actually know my african last name through my mothers side and its an easy name, but nah, I dont have a problem with my name, dont really care. its a reminder I come from the diaspora (through my fathers side), which I take pride in. we are survivors, my name acts as a reminder, never forget, never again. I dont want to erase what they did, when they read my last name, I want them to remember. Like holocaust survivors with the tattoo.

 

[BigMan]

Feels good not having my family lineage trace back to a slave..

Feels good not having a slave owner cac surname..

feels extra food, knowing exactly where my fam comes from.. With our unique language, food and culture

African-Americans stay losing

where you from