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In your atmosphere
Are you going to stop wearing European clothes as well? I never got why people change their name to some African or Muslim name.
We won't always be at the bottom, but we ain't getting reparations.
They chose "white" names though. A few had europeanized versions of African names.
I wouldn't call them slave names though
Many Africans don't have African names
No i didn't you can't read.yeah its decreolized into a dialect with few of its original differences from English
kayslay was using "thot" and "bae" as examples of AAVE being a separate language like cmon bruh
No shade but if you're not AA or didn't grow up speaking AAVE you wont be able to pick up on it. Hence sites like Urban Dictionary existing.
Mainstream AAVE is not the same as the AAVE spoken among US, we purposely "Decreolize" it as means to translate.
It's ever changing as well. People often forget America is Huge! Our states are bigger than countries and our cities are bigger than most islands. For that reason alone it's pretty silly to try and compare our our languages. Just as there is no Standard American accent ,there isn't a singular version of AAVE. We arent a monolith so why would we have a monolithic laguage?!?
The problem with these discussions is the fact that it is always had by Non-AAs, non Americans or Suburanites who really didn't grow up in our culture. Most of you know of our culture through Media e.i. Racist Propaganda News, Scripted RealityTV, Social Media, and Music videos.
Simply put just because you don't experience certain aspects of OUR culture doesn't mean it doesn't exist!
Im really curious why people who aren't AA feel they can speaking in absolutes about my culture.
Anyone care to answer that?
I agree with the bold.
I really dont give af about anyone else's language to be clear.
Im addressing the fact that Non-AAs who dont speak AAVE claiming that everyone in America is fluent in our language.
Just because you know buzz words like THOT&Bae doesn't mean that if I drop you off on either the South or Westside of Chicago that you'd be able to carry a conversation without translation.
You do know you ARENT AA, right?
The fact that you continue call it ebonics pretty much let me know your sources.
Thing is one can argue Black Americans created their own language but allowed non Blacks to monetize it. "Ebonics" and other regional slangs are languages of the people who came up in those communities/cultures. Hell look at when Migos or Chi town rappers get interviewed white folks put captions on the screen so people can understand what they are saying. At the end of the day if you are Black no matter where you are from and hear other blacks talk you will essentially pick up the ear to hear the mother tongues. I`m not Jamaican but when I watched Money and Violence I could understand EVERY thing the Jamaicans would say on the show.
ebonics is decreolized to the fullest. while i have reservations, i do think Jamaicans should (and they have in Jamaica) start to standardize Patois and use it as a unifying force
When did i say Patois is a language? Feel free to go through my posting history. When did i "claim" creile or geechee people? Do you know how to read English? And again prove Aave is a language
No i didn't you can't read.
That was a completely different thread and subject matter.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-has-chinatown-stayed-chinatown.357987/page-5
You dont't have to LIE to kick it.
I stand firm in whatever I say unlike your backpedaling ass.
What I wrote in the other thread:
In response to this:
Oh so one minute Patois isnt a real language but some how it should be the"Standard" language of Jamaica.... yeah that makes sense.
what language do you think should be the base language then?AAs should consciously push aave further from standard English
Englishwhat language do you think should be the base language then?
LMAO!Cacs birth rates are dwindling and hopefully we have the chinese invade and slice em all up. Imma just ride this slave name out and hopefully they'll all be gone in a hunnit years or so.
Contradict yourself
How is "We won't always be at the bottom, but we ain't getting reparations." a contradiction?
fail economics
think black folk can rise from the underclass without reparations
think the 1900s is absolute for the rest of history