Wu-tang were so ahead of their time with their Wu-Tang Forever album

[Darts]

It's a good album as it is but it is definitely a certified classic if you condense it to one disc. I use this specific sequence and it more or less blends perfectly:

1. Intro
2. Reunited
3. Triumph
4. For Heavens Sake
5. Cash Still Rules
6. Duck Seazon
7. Deadly Melody
8. Hellz Wind Staff
9. Visionz
10. As High As Wu-Tang Get
11. Severe Punishment
12. Bells Of War
13. Older Gods
14. Maria
15. Impossible
16. A Better Tomorrow
17. It's Yourz

 

[Alvin]

Right. If I recall, killa army and suns of man filled that void instead.

That killabeez the swarm album was fire tho

Those killarmy albums were beautiful, 4th disciple did his thing on there.

I personally hated that killa bees compilation

 

[up in here]

Forever was next level. Wu at that time was untouchable. If you was hating on that album back then you would’ve got clowned

 

[I love Latina women]

I think it’s the best double album ever but I never heard anybody ever say they liked Black Shampoo. Come in this thread and seen multiple people say it

True but that beat is so hard and yet so smooth

 

[cornercommission2k12]

It's a double cd and you can only point to about 4 songs that were kinda weak. That's called a classic. All classics have a hiccup or 2. All eyez on me, life after death, etc both double cds have weak songs on them. When it's a double cd and 90% of the album dope that's a classic.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Don't understand the hate for Dog shyt in all honesty though.

Still a solid album regardless of the filler.

Always liked dog shyt

Maybe I'm just ignorant odb got quotables for days on that song lol should be the intro for the red pill channels lol

 

[JulesWinfield]

Absolutely a classic. Could do without a couple songs. Namely The Projects, Black Shampoo and Maria. Those two always get skipped for me. Wu Revolution is a classic intro though. Popa Wu and Uncle Pete dropping bombs. Does go on for a bit long though. I'm a Wu stan so everything else is unskippable for me. MGM is a classic Rae and Ghost collab. Nothing to say that hasn't already been said about Reunited, Triumph, For Heavenz Sake, Hellz Wind Staff, Impossible, etc.

 

[DaveyDave]

Ok I agree with both, RZA should’ve dropped deck, u-god and killa in that time period after forever and then supreme clientele.

they all wanted to get away from RZA after Forever. That was the end of his 5 year plan and they hd the choice to stay with him or go their own way and see how they went. We all know what happened after that. Deck is the one I feel sorry for the most because he should have had an OB4CL level album in 95/96 but it all got lost in the flood.

 

[KingsOfKings]

I consider this to be a must have.

 

[KingsOfKings]

 

[DeuceZ]

I listened to most of it last night after finishing the Hulu series. It sounded a little dated surprisingly and a couple tracks (Maria) i was like

Mostly still fire though

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Maybe not wack but that album had bunch of filler and Wu aint have the cohesiveness they did on they classics. And no Forever aint a classic solid record but

Black Shampoo
Maria
Dog shyt
Second Coming
Wu Revolution

You fukking wylin or got 100 Wu merch in your closet if you fukking with those tracks....and there a few others that while not as weak were just

Maria beat is fukking dope af. I’ll ride for just off that alone

Wu revolution is hardly even a song. Beat is dope tho.

Dog shyt is classic….but I like odb, beat is dope. Odb is comical

Second coming is one of my favorite beats in the album. Wish they would’ve rapped over it. But that beat is insane.

Black Shampoo is the worst Wu song of all time tho

Now I’ll admit I’m a wu Stan but I don’t think They’re infallible, pretty much all their ish outside of ghost has been weak since The W

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

You shytting on Maria and Dog shyt but let Deadly Melody and The City slide?

The city was cachectic and I didn’t really like it too much

Deadly melody is sick af tho

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

I hate wu-forever

I didn't like 80% of the production on this album

Most late 90s hip-hop production in generalstrings

lyrically its 9/10 tho if only they mad a cohesive project shyt sounds like a compilation

People wanted Wu-Forever to be liquid swords/ob4cl combined

Compared to the hype the retail album was almost MID Wu lost damn near the whole black community after this shyt

Even if you think it was dope it wasn't what people wanted/expected

WU was on top, shyt was clean TOO CLEAN, ZERO hunger, certain verses while dope sounded phoned in with no heart behind it like they was reading off a piece of paper and pasted together on a beat

it reminds me of modern RAP (thats not a complement)
it was ahead of its time in a lot of ways but I don't think thats a good thing

Hip-Hop hasn't gotten better Wu Forever was far removed from most of the reasons people liked WU in the first place

While I don’t agree as my opinion on the album has changed, however I agreed with everything you said back in 97 and for years after. I used to hate forever so much I refused to listen to it and slept on the bangers like duck season, mgm, projects, etc.

When this dropped I expected an OB4CL x LS x Ironman vibe with the 36 chamber collective vibe. When I listened to how clean everything sounded I was pissed that we weren’t getting the grimey rugged shyt I loved so much. I even hated on Ironman for a while bc it’s more blaxploitation and soulful compared to CL & LS.

I’ve learned to love forever and it’s grown on me a lot. But like you, I despise the late 90s production style with all the cheesy strings and less sampling.

Basically how forever made me feel was the same as IWW to Illmatic. I still dont love IWW bc of my initial disappointment when hearing it.

I wanted a family cookout bbq meal, and Forever and IWW tried to dish out some fancy fine dining ish. Later in life I learned to appreciate both.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

It's a good album as it is but it is definitely a certified classic if you condense it to one disc. I use this specific sequence and it more or less blends perfectly:

1. Intro
2. Reunited
3. Triumph
4. For Heavens Sake
5. Cash Still Rules
6. Duck Seazon
7. Deadly Melody
8. Hellz Wind Staff
9. Visionz
10. As High As Wu-Tang Get
11. Severe Punishment
12. Bells Of War
13. Older Gods
14. Maria
15. Impossible
16. A Better Tomorrow
17. It's Yourz

Projects (international version) w/o a doubt needs to be on this tho

Edit: heaterz is a must too