Wu-tang were so ahead of their time with their Wu-Tang Forever album

[Bugzbunny129]

Its still bewilders me how wu revolution and second coming get called filler. Those 2 , + black shampoo brung CHARACTER. Its bot sposed to be non stop rapping all the way thru.

Papa wu / northstar is one of the greatest wu songs ever. Wu revolution is just that. A 5% intro to a 5% album. It needs to be there. Second coming as well. Its why madvillain has the same type of ending.

Wutabg forever is lyrically, the greatest achievement in hip hop and sonically, the first album without sampling every song which would set the late 90s / early 2000s trend that lasts til today.

Its not a perfect album and gets a lil long in the tooth with plodding beats of the second album. But even the worst songs are good. Ifs a scienve experiment freal and pulled it off.

Also. As a kid and a new wu fan. I loved it.

It's a good album as it is but it is definitely a certified classic if you condense it to one disc. I use this specific sequence and it more or less blends perfectly:

1. Intro
2. Reunited
3. Triumph
4. For Heavens Sake
5. Cash Still Rules
6. Duck Seazon
7. Deadly Melody
8. Hellz Wind Staff
9. Visionz
10. As High As Wu-Tang Get
11. Severe Punishment
12. Bells Of War
13. Older Gods
14. Maria
15. Impossible
16. A Better Tomorrow
17. It's Yourz

No heaterz?

 

[bad_company]

Last night, I took a trip down to Crown Heights ...

 

[bigde09]

Love Wu but this album was always meh to me

 

[BUSINESS AS USUAL]

Love Wu but this album was always meh to me

You must be on fenty wop ..this album is flames. Best double album ever

 

[KingsOfKings]

 

[Mike Wins]

Ran this whole joint back this afternoon. Some of these hip hop fans so weird.

23 real songs.

You got about 10 all out classics, 9 dope tracks, 4 that's mid to skip, yet dudes want to focus on the weakest tracks. Not the good shyt. But then they will call an album that go 7 for 14 a classic. Weirdo behavior.

 

[LevelUp]

 

[JYoung24]

What yall think about gza's followup album to liquid swords

 

[Bugzbunny129]

People on here crying how beats changed and then shyt on maria and dog shyt which may be the most og wu sounding beats on album.

Weird

Also. The album is too long to be a single disk. Your cutting classics no matter what as a single disk.

Noone ever rhymed this hard. Even as a kid in 97 i understood this album cemented them as all timers whod always be around in some way shape and form. Wu albums were S tier compared to all else. It may not be their BEST album, but imo its their most important. Whole wu trajectory changes if forever dont hit the way it did.

 

[summwunn]

What yall think about gza's followup album to liquid swords

..... lets not derail the thread but . . . .

 

[Alvin]

What yall think about gza's followup album to liquid swords

it wasn't liquid swords that was the problem, bigger issue was that it wasn't produced by RZA either

 

[BuddahMAC]

it wasn't liquid swords that was the problem, bigger issue was that it wasn't produced by RZA either

Too much Arabian Knight/Q-Base trying to do replica "of the era" beats, but the overall lyrics were top tier and the production was mostly quality. Sequencing was a miss too w/ back to back skits- that's subbing in intending to foul.

 

[Alvin]

Too much Arabian Knight/Q-Base trying to do replica "of the era" beats, but the overall lyrics were top tier and the production was mostly quality. Sequencing was a miss too w/ back to back skits- that's subbing in intending to foul.

idk why these dudes got rid of RZA as they executive producer outside of ghost on Supreme Clientele. Also not sure why RZA didn't just shelve Method Man, Deck and U-God's album and not just recreate them unless, at least with Meth they wanted to keep up the momentum.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

What yall think about gza's followup album to liquid swords

Meh...had some dope songs, but plenty mid.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

idk why these dudes got rid of RZA as they executive producer outside of ghost on Supreme Clientele. Also not sure why RZA didn't just shelve Method Man, Deck and U-God's album and not just recreate them unless, at least with Meth they wanted to keep up the momentum.

I think they were all just tired of each other but maybe labels made it difficult? I think they wanted to kinda do their own thing, or prove they could do it without RZA's creative vision. Clearly, this idea was terrible (Immobilarity). Also the East Coast sound overall was changing a lot by 97 and into 98-99 so it was hard to want to keep doing RZA/4th/Wu Elements sound while staying relevant, which was another mistake, b/c it was better to keep your core happy (SC, OBCL2) instead of trying to sell albums/staying current.

SC did the incredible, almost impossible job of living up to it's predecessors, yet having a completely new sound, while others fell flat on their face (immobilarity). Not many sophomore albums could follow up the original, especially those released after 1998, SC, and 2001 are really the only ones I can think of.