Wu-tang were so ahead of their time with their Wu-Tang Forever album

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idk why these dudes got rid of RZA as they executive producer outside of ghost on Supreme Clientele. Also not sure why RZA didn't just shelve Method Man, Deck and U-God's album and not just recreate them unless, at least with Meth they wanted to keep up the momentum.

Post the Forever tour blow up, RZA only stuck with a few while he finally went for dolo. Ghost had always been RZA's tightest in the Clan outside of literal family, so they stayed close. He felt he hadn't given U & Deck the same opportunities as the other Clan members, so he did a chunk on Uey's and less on Deck's as they were trying to push Deck as a producer himself at the time plus he shepherded Meth's 2nd more than the credits would show. RZA let people do as they feel but didn't divorce himself from their process entirely until the members split from their Wu Records deals (which allowed proceeds from each individual signing to go back into the collective) around 2000 .

First run exec. productions through Forever were all RZA, Divine, Power & Ghost (treasurer).

2nd run:
GZA's exec producers were himself, RZA & Arabian Knight/Q-Base for Beneath the Surface
Rae's exec producers were himself & Power for Immobilarity
Deck's exec producers were Divine & RZA on Uncontrolled Substance
U-God's exec producers were himself, RZA & Mook on Golden Arms Redemption
ODB had no exec producer info on ----- Please
Meth's exec producers were himself, Kevin Liles, Divine & RZA on T2: Judgement Day
RZA's exec producers were himself, Divine & Jon Baker on BDIS

Masta & Ghost didn't drop in that timeframe but Ghost's exec producers were himself, RZA & Divine on SC and Masta's on NSD were himself, RZA, GZA w/ the label heads & Dreddy Kruger as A&R.

Realize the only album to have zero RZA involvement or credit in that time is Rae's sophomore attempt and then maybe people will start understanding my long standing claim on Rae doing a CL follow-up w/ absolutely no RZA or Ghost, which were universal highlights of his debut, were driven 1000% on self interest and ego.
 

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Where you rank it on the followups amongst the clan members we already know Supreme clientel is number one

I'll have to dig thru but off top, the ones worth ranking would be:

1. SC
2. OB4CL2
3. Bulletproof Wallets OG w/ samples
4. Fishscale or Maybe tical 2000
 

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I'll have to dig thru but off top, the ones worth ranking would be:

1. SC
2. OB4CL2
3. Bulletproof Wallets OG w/ samples
4. Fishscale or Maybe tical 2000
I was more talking about all there second solo albums ob4cl2 wouldn't count bulletproof wallets and fishscale wouldn't count

* i know Beneath the surface isn't gza's technically 2nd album but it is under wu tang
 
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I was more talking about all there second solo albums ob4cl2 wouldn't count bulletproof wallets and fishscale wouldn't count
Ahhh. Liek you said SC is #1 by miles... Tical 2000 and to a lesser extent Beneath the Surface are the only other ones worth listening to imo

I always hated the bobby digital shyt. U-God? :camby:

Killarmy had 3 pretty dope albums tho
 
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A lot of the best Wu stuff after Forever was from the affiliates. The Pillage, Heist of the Century, first two Killarmy albums, the Sunz of Man debut. The Swarm comp was underrated.
This. 4th was better than RZA at this point imo b/c RZA was going too digital and experimental. But when RZA stuck to sampling he made classics like "Polluted Wisdom"

I really wish we would've gotten a true RZA solo circa 1995/96 instead of the bobby digital alter ego shyt.
 

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Ahhh. Liek you said SC is #1 by miles... Tical 2000 and to a lesser extent Beneath the Surface are the only other ones worth listening to imo

I always hated the bobby digital shyt. U-God? :camby:

Killarmy had 3 pretty dope albums tho
Decks album was a decent listen at worst

Ugods was bad, barely even trying but still had serious gems worth listening to.

Gza album was his best outside LS. Synth beats or not.

Meths his best outside tical until 421. T2 tried to be too many things at once.

Bobby digital is like a 7 at worst.

But priest. Cap. Sunz. Killarmy. Lad. The swarm.diggaz.

All solid 3.5 mic albums or better . All of them minus ugod are good albums
 

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This. 4th was better than RZA at this point imo b/c RZA was going too digital and experimental. But when RZA stuck to sampling he made classics like "Polluted Wisdom"

Just realized I left out Heavy Mental, personal classic with great work from 4th and True Master throughout.
 

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It was a great album, it's just 36 Chambers was so monumental, that is the one album that was so ahead of their time that they made a lot of rappers sound ancient.

Wu Forever is a great album, but not groundbreaking.
 
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