Would you consider Aborigines black?

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Sudan/New Zealand.
Most sub-saharan africans with a grasp on the Western concepts of race would never deny that they're "black" based on phenotype (they often fit the perceived true "negro" stereotypes) but there are Horn of Africa, Africans, who have their own concepts of race inside Africa, that will deny that they are "black".

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nope, gotta check out that movie. but you can tell theyre not BLACK, Black just by looking at them. People can be "Black" but still not Black. You know what I mean?:youngsabo:

Question who determines who is 'blc
I don't consider anyone whose not AA as being black :yeshrug:
Anyone outside of America, I go by nationality.


edit: fukk it then. Everybody's black even the people who desperately want to distance themselves from it.
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@Tezeta

Why don't you travel to places such as Perth or Darwin during your school break, and really explore the country, and visit the different reserves in those areas and get the natives perspective? which many Australians and Kiwis do travel to places such as Fiji, because coming on this website will not give you the answers you are looking for! Are Ethiopians and South Sudanese that insular a community? Then again, i met some Coptic Sudanese and Egyptians Copts that think the same way, they barely know anything about Australia besides being free country, without the religious harassment they left from the old country, and making money so i reckon "living the good life". Which seems like the only concern with them is making money. I have a tendency of venturing out and knowing and educating about other communities in my area, but then again New Zealand is a great deal smaller than Australia.

What i am saying, it does not make sense to address this question here, since most of the people here are pretty ignorant of the region.
 
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:laff: :laff: this thread is runinng rampant with agents. these people are BLACK! i take y'all as entertainment value, nothing serious. wooo:wow: :russ: y'all retarded
 

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The term/concept as we know it today, was created in America by Aframs:yeshrug:

No, it was used in Africa since the 1800's. African Americans were primarily called "Negroes" even will within the 20th century.
 
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Aboriginals are not orig from Africa .. There is no direct line of descendants from Africa

I was watching a program not long ago saying they come from Timor /asia and india ..

They had settled in those regions for a long periods of time before ever reaching Australia

They are also the only race which there DNA line can eventually be bred out is what I heard
 

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Aboriginals are not orig from Africa .. There is no direct line of descendants from Africa

I was watching a program not long ago saying they come from Timor /asia and india ..

They had settled in those regions for a long periods of time before ever reaching Australia

They are also the only race which there DNA line can eventually be bred out is what I heard

Damn, care to elaborate on that?
 

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Aboriginals are not orig from Africa .. There is no direct line of descendants from Africa

I was watching a program not long ago saying they come from Timor /asia and india ..

They had settled in those regions for a long periods of time before ever reaching Australia

They are also the only race which there DNA line can eventually be bred out is what I heard
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For the millionth time: yes.

So is it that y'all are doing the same math as white supremacists with the whole "racially pure" bullshyt? Most of you are not 100% African so you wouldn't even pass your own stupid ass test.

I will write it again just because:

What percentage African is enough to be considered black? 50%? No cause people try to say Obama isn't black. Is Michelle black? She looks like massa got to one of her ancestors. Let's say she is 75% African so she qualifies. Now their kids are like 63% African so they qualify too. So now Obama is the only non Black but has black kids. So why couldn't Obama's non Black mom have a black kid?

If the above sounds stupid it's CAUSE IT IS. Smart dumb niqqa thinking at it's finest.

Stop trying to divide us up. We need all the soldiers we can get.

Good post
 

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The modern conception of the term "black" is w/o a doubt an Afram creation. Aframs were called "negro", "colored" and "people of color" by white people.

No, it's not exclusively AfAm. My country of origin on my mother's side (Zimbabwe) used "black" since the 19th century.

Coli militants have an awful habit of speaking on black cultures which they know literally nothing about as if they're experts or in any way qualified, just because they're also black. I'll never try to school a Black Ameican on Black American cultural norms/traditions, you cats should have the sense to let Africans and West Indians speak on their own behalf.
 

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No, it's not exclusively AfAm. My country of origin on my mother's side (Zimbabwe) used "black" since the 19th century.

Show me some links/info in regards to the history of Zimbabwe and the usage of the the term "black" in the modern sense that predates the Afram concept
 

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I don't have any documents on hand, but the Rhodesian (colonial Zimbabwe) census data refers to blacks as blacks in 1911:

Demographics of Zimbabwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Southern Rhodesia is the modern day Zimbabwe. "Coloured" refers to mixed race people.

The chart says "black" but I don't know if that's the actual terminology that was used in 1911. Aframs were using the term back in the mid 1800's but the modern concept that we know today didn't exist



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