With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’

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like i said before, facebook , instagram and twitter have a long had start when it comes to their platform being compromised.



5. Facebook​

Date: April 2021

Impact: 530 million users exposed

Although one of the world’s largest companies, Facebook is no stranger to data leaks and controversy. The social media giant has constantly dealt with security breaches of user data since the company went public in 2012.

The company’s massive data breach in April 2021 was one of its largest, leaking names, phone numbers, account names, and passwords of over 530 million people to the public. Facebook identified the problem in the platform’s tool to sync contacts, citing hackers exploiting a vulnerability to scrape user profiles for customer data.

Though Facebook maintained that no data had been compromised or misused, it’s impossible to verify since the information was public for a short period. Hackers or scammers can easily take advantage of unsuspecting users with just their names, phone numbers, and emails.

Since 2013, Facebook has faced multiple major data breaches, including:

  • In March 2019, information leaked that Facebook employees had access to over 600 million user accounts. Account IDs and passwords for both Facebook and Instagram were stored in plaintext files. Although Facebook claims no sensitive information was exposed, it was one more incident among many security issues.
  • In April 2019, the Cyber Risk team at UpGuard discovered 540 million unsecured Facebook user data records on public Amazon S3 cloud servers. Third-party app developer and Mexican media company Cultura Colectiva failed to password-protect their entire dataset, leaving the information open for anyone to access and download.
  • Although Facebook was not directly responsible for this incident, it brought scrutiny to how the social network managed third-party access to its database. Following a long history of data leaks, Facebook finally increased restrictions on third-party developers.
  • Just a few months later, more exposed records were found on a foreign server on the dark web. Further investigation found that a hacker group in Vietnam may have abused Facebook’s API and scraped the site for user IDs, names, and phone numbers. Over 300 million users were affected.

Facebook / Cambridge Analytica​

Date: April 2018

Impact: 50-90 million users exposed

In 2018, a British consulting firm, Cambridge Analytica, stole and sold data from 50-90 million user accounts on Facebook in one of the most high-profile cases in recent memory. Cambridge Analytica security researcher Aleksandr Kogan accessed this data through a loophole from a third-party quiz app. This loophole in Facebook’s API (application programming interface) allowed Kogan to compile data from anyone who downloaded the app and their entire friend network.

Despite going against the terms and conditions of Facebook, Cambridge Analytica continued to sell the data illegally because there was no rule enforcement. Reports show that Facebook was aware of the issue as early as 2015 but did not take action until Christopher Wylie, a Cambridge Analytica employee, blew the whistle.

Things finally came to a head when the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced a historic $5 billion fine for Facebook’s continuous violation of data security and poor data protection practices. The FTC also mandated a complete restructuring from the top down to increase oversight of privacy compliance. Furthermore, the FTC filed a lawsuit against Cambridge Analytica, forcing CEO Alexander Nix to resign.

SEC Confirms SIM Swap Attack Behind X Account Takeover​


Threat actor is selling data on 5.4 million Twitter users for $30K on hacking forum​


If the threat actor is telling the truth, data from a quarter of all Instagram users is available on a cybercriminal forum.


On November 10th, a threat actor listed a dataset for sale on a notorious hacker forum, claiming it consists of records of 489 million Instagram users. Instagram has over two billion monthly active users, which means that if proven correct, the incident affects a quarter of all users.

September 2022: Irish Regulators Fine Instagram €405m for Data Privacy Violations​

In September 2022, Ireland’s Data Protection Commissioner leveled a €405 million fine against Meta for violating the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). Specifically, the fine pertained to Instagram exposing children’s phone numbers and email addresses.

In response, Meta claimed that the violation in question had been resolved for over a year, and Meta has disputed the fine.
they don't care and are excited to engage in a Cold War in their lifetimes.

Literally every bad thing TikTok does, an American/Western company has already done a couple of times over with minimum punishment

These are very stupid people.
 

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The fundamental flaw with your argument is the government is who determines legality and this same government has decided on the ban. Via the legislature, up to the presidents desk, and now through the Supreme Court.

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You sure you aren’t a chatbot?

this is a first amendment issue, the ban is unconstitutional. many laws later ruled unconstitutional have went through the same process.

this supreme court has made rulings that has turned over long held precedents and are looking to do more of the same, it's slowly being seen as illegitimate by many americans with many of their new rulings.
 

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Here's news that dropped today as a reminder of what we're dealing with:
NOYB files complaints against AliExpress, Shein, TikTok, Xiaomi, Temu, and WeChat over claims they are unlawfully sending EU user data to China

Out of the frying pan into the fire



101 Complaints on EU-US transfers filed

101 Complaints on EU-US transfers filed​

A quick analysis of the HTML source code of major EU webpages shows that many companies still use Google Analytics or Facebook Connect one month after a major judgment by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) - despite both companies clearly falling under US surveillance laws, such as FISA 702. Neither Facebook nor Google seem to have a legal basis for the data transfers. Google still claims to rely on the “Privacy Shield” a month after it was invalidated, while Facebook continues to use the "SCCs", despite the Court finding that US surveillance laws violate the essence of EU fundamental rights.

23 years of illegal data transfers due to inactive DPAs and new EU-US deals

In two landmark rulings in 2015 and 2020, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) declared EU-US data transfers illegal. These decisions are retroactive, which means there was no legal basis for said transfers between the year 2000 and 2023. Nevertheless, most EU companies kept using services like Google Analytics or tracking tools by Meta which entail unlawful data transfers to the USA. A new analysis of noyb's 101 complaints on that matter now shows how a combination of inactive data protection authorities and new deals by the European Commission have lead to 23 years of privacy violations.
 

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101 Complaints on EU-US transfers filed

101 Complaints on EU-US transfers filed​

A quick analysis of the HTML source code of major EU webpages shows that many companies still use Google Analytics or Facebook Connect one month after a major judgment by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) - despite both companies clearly falling under US surveillance laws, such as FISA 702. Neither Facebook nor Google seem to have a legal basis for the data transfers. Google still claims to rely on the “Privacy Shield” a month after it was invalidated, while Facebook continues to use the "SCCs", despite the Court finding that US surveillance laws violate the essence of EU fundamental rights.

23 years of illegal data transfers due to inactive DPAs and new EU-US deals

In two landmark rulings in 2015 and 2020, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) declared EU-US data transfers illegal. These decisions are retroactive, which means there was no legal basis for said transfers between the year 2000 and 2023. Nevertheless, most EU companies kept using services like Google Analytics or tracking tools by Meta which entail unlawful data transfers to the USA. A new analysis of noyb's 101 complaints on that matter now shows how a combination of inactive data protection authorities and new deals by the European Commission have lead to 23 years of privacy violations.
More proof that companies that operate outside of the national jurisdiction do not give AF about local laws and should not be trusted by governments.

No one is implying the Google/Meta/Twitter are great. I am saying they are driven by profits or the American machine. TikTok has to kowtow to the PRC, and their interests are nationalistic instead of capitalistic, and so they are a clear security threat. Look how they're responding to the influx of US users:

 

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More proof that companies that operate outside of the national jurisdiction do not give AF about local laws and should not be trusted by governments.

No one is implying the Google/Meta/Twitter are great. I am saying they are driven by profits or the American machine. TikTok has to kowtow to the PRC, and their interests are nationalistic instead of capitalistic, and so they are a clear security threat. Look how they're responding to the influx of US users:


post the contents of the link if its behind a paywall. ::beli:


RedNote, aka Little Red Book, will soon stop being a #Tiktokers shelter. SCOOP: China's Internet Watchdog directs RedNote to beef up English-language content moderation and work on hiding #tiktokrefugees posts from Chinese users, by Qianer Liu Juro Osawa via The Information LinkedIn

The Cyberspace Administration of China, the country’s Internet watchdog, is concerned that English-language content showing up on RedNote may contain politically sensitive posts that aren’t otherwise allowed on Chinese social media, according to three people with knowledge of the communications between Chinese officials and RedNote.

Chinese officials raised the issue with RedNote’s government relations team earlier this week, warning that the company needs to ensure China-based users can’t see posts from U.S. users, according to two of the people. Since then, RedNote employees have been scrambling to hide U.S. users’ posts from Chinese users. #tiktok
 

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You can say the same with us social media companies the way they have all capitulated to trump and maga due to nationalistic opportunity reasonings. Non of their new directions are driven by capital
I disagree.

Facebook is already lobbying to get fines reduced from Europe:

Musk was at risk of a larger prosecution IIRC and was in a less precarious version of Trump fighting to stay out of jail
He also was not faring as well as other EV manufacturers with the tax credits:

The fact that this is happening are still signs of a faltering democracy. There's no need to expedite our demise by giving external forces the ability to ransack the American conscious.
 

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We have clearly different takeaways about this video. Starting @ 2:20, he UNIRONICALLY says that thanks to TikTok
  • Every major news source has lost credibility and insinuates that he gets his news from TikTok
  • He insinuates he does his shopping on TikTok instead of Amazon
  • His perspective on the media/hollywood has changed completely thanks to TikTok
  • He insinuates the music industry has been upended and needs TikTok to survive
  • This idea that TikTok is making people healthier is wild AF and clearly flies in the face of all studies on social media consumption

He thinks that by framing it as TikTok vs US conglomerates, it proves his point, but actually, to summarize, TikTok now is in control of his news, shopping, parasocial interactions, music and understanding of politics. This is unprecedented access into his life.

And the frustrating part is that he states that the app "allows him to communicate w/o interference" w/o grasping that the algorithm is making all the decisions for him.

Is the argument that since we collectively hate Meta/Google, the PRC are unlikely to have as negative of an impact on us? That we should close our eyes and allow foreign countries to run control our lives since the current social media are bad-faith actors? It feels like the conversation is using US social media as an excuse to completely throw away our security/privacy from a company/country that has even less regulation for US citizens.
 

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We have clearly different takeaways about this video. Starting @ 2:20, he UNIRONICALLY says that thanks to TikTok
  • Every major news source has lost credibility and insinuates that he gets his news from TikTok
  • He insinuates he does his shopping on TikTok instead of Amazon
  • His perspective on the media/hollywood has changed completely thanks to TikTok
  • He insinuates the music industry has been upended and needs TikTok to survive
  • This idea that TikTok is making people healthier is wild AF and clearly flies in the face of all studies on social media consumption

He thinks that by pitting it in a way that he's sticking it to US conglomerates, it proves his point, but actually, to summarize, TikTok is where he goes to get his news, shopping, parasocial interactions, music and understanding of politics. This is unprecedented access into his life.

And the frustrating part is that he states that the app "allows him to communicate w/o interference" w/o grasping that the algorithm is making all the decisions for him.

Is the argument that since we collectively hate Meta/Google, the PRC are unlikely to have as negative of an impact on us? That we should close our eyes and allow foreign countries to run control our lives since the current social media are also bad-faith actors?

I don't know if the music industry NEEDS tiktok but they have been pushing their artists to post on there and I think tiktok was pivotle in the career of numerous musicians sicne they built a fanbase there. the music industry recently had a contract dispute with tiktok regarding licensing but i don't know who capitulated in the negotiations.

healthy is a broad topic but theres no doubt people use the site like any other social media site to find some form of community which tends to be helpful unless said community engages in self-destructive behavior or malicious acts.

he's an adult, why do you think you should be able to tell him and other adults what websites they can access?

if he wants to give his personal info to whomever, thats his business. :manny:

the government can stop this data collection practice but chooses not to.

if tiktok gets banned and another site takes it's place, theres nothing stopping bad actors from simply downloading the content from a platform and transcribing it to build a dossier on an individual.
 
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