With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’

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These pro tiktok arguments coming from the same people who attack the government for not providing support for previous Spyware it knew about is ironically more proof of the dangers the platform presents.
 

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Is it true or not?

You made abroad claim that the government should not protect its citizens from harmful websites.

I said s yes they should and gave a a real example of harm.

For someone who claims to not be carrying water, you surely are.

the harm wasn't from the website but the bad actors who used the website to facilitate their scam like every social media site that has ever existed has been used to facilitate scams.

people been scamming online long before social media existed, on chat apps, on forums, on usenet and by email. no one has ever suggested banning entire platforms because scams were done on them. :stopitslime:

has tiktok itself scammed users? if were in fact a criminal enterprise, congress and LEO would have been shut them down but they're a legit company excelling at an american business model.
 

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the harm wasn't from the website but the bad actors who used the website to facilitate their scam like every social media site that has ever existed has been used to facilitate scams.
Does the website not bare responsibility for how it is being used? It does.

The lack of transparency in that regard is why it was banned, particularly knowing it’s controlled by a hostile foreign government.

:manny:

One day you’re arguing for GDPR in America and the next day you’re arguing against it. :skip:

has tiktok itself scammed users?
Did backpage? :mjgrin:
 

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Cross posting multiple of the same long posts in multiple threads at the same time is going to get you nap allegations.

At least you’re a bot and not a the old version of Indians in a makeshift office

i sometimes cross-post to relevant threads because people aren't following the same threads so you get different perspectives. theres people on this forum that avoid this sub-forum for some reason but discuss similar topics. :ld:
 

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Does the website not bare responsibility for how it is being used? It does.

The lack of transparency in that regard is why it was banned, particularly knowing it’s controlled by a hostile foreign government.

:manny:

One day you’re arguing for GDPR in America and the next day you’re arguing against it. :skip:


Did backpage? :mjgrin:


section 230 covers all social media platforms. by your own logic, all social media should have been banned since they've all been used to facilitate crimes and will continue to do so.

where did i argue against GDPR in america? :stopitslime:

banning tiktok has nothing to do with any GDPR style policy. they want an american to own it, they don't want to change the any data collecting policies once that happens. people are now making arguments the U.S congress hasn't even made. :heh:
 
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i sometimes cross-post to relevant threads because people aren't following the same threads so you get different perspectives. theres people on this forum that avoid this sub-forum for some reason but discuss similar topics. :ld:
Cap and your nonsense arguments also do not help your non bot cause
 
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which argument was non-sense? :jbhmm:
free speech/free association > everything else


Would not be coming from the same person who is spamming this websites with links to apps that the CCP has control and access to. The same CCP that has kidnapped people and thrown them into "re education camps".
 

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section 230 covers all social media platforms. by your own logic, all social media should have been banned since they've all been used to facilitate crimes and will continue to do so.

where did i argue against GDPR in america? :stopitslime:
Seems you have missed the entirety of the argument for TikTok.

In particular EUIi,PII, and its associated meta data being under the control of a foreign government with no way to ensure its compliance.

Just say you’re addicted to TikTok. It would save us from attempting to relitigate arguments that have already been litigated up to scotus.
 

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banning tiktok has nothing to do with any GDPR style policy. they want an american to own it, they don't want to change the any data collecting policies once that happens. people are now making arguments the U.S congress hasn't even made. :heh:
Do you even understand concepts such as data at rest?

Anyway since you love ai summaries:

The GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) aims to protect the personal data of individuals within the European Union, giving them more control over how their information is collected, used, and stored by ensuring organizations handle personal data responsibly and securely; essentially safeguarding individuals' privacy rights regarding their personal data.

Key points about GDPR protection:
    • Individual rights:
      Provides individuals with the right to access their personal data, request correction, and even be "forgotten" by companies in certain situations.
    • Data minimization:
      Requires organizations to only collect the necessary personal data for a specific purpose.
    • Transparency:
      Companies must be transparent about how they collect and use personal data.
    • Consent:
      Requires explicit consent from individuals before processing their personal data.
Transparency is a term you’ve seen me use multiple times.
 

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free speech/free association > everything else


Would not be coming from the same person who is spamming this websites with links to apps that the CCP has control and access to. The same CCP that has kidnapped people and thrown them into "re education camps".

you seem to misunderstand what that means, I don't use those apps, but just because I don't use those apps do I think the government should be banning people from using that app too.

the government could have legislated a data privacy bill but it doesn't care about the data privacy of americans so they unprecedentedly banned an app that had no crminal wrongdoing. if you don't realize how dangerous that is, i don't know what else to tell you.

i haven't spammed this site with any links to CCP apps :stopitslime:

i posted commentary from social media which showed how users are responding to the upcoming ban.

the CCP has no authority over any american outside of china or influence on anybody who doesn't have relatives in china so I don't see why that should stop m from using their search engine from time to time to find download links that google and bing block from their results.

i guess i'm no different from any foreigner who uses american web services eventhough the U.S incarcerates more people than any other country in the world even though we dont' have the largest population.

wheres china's guantanamo bay?

Chicago police run secret warehouse ‘black site’ where Americans are detained illegally, abused: report​

The Historic Roots of Homan Square, Chicago's CIA-Style Black Site​

The Chicago Police Department didn't need the War on Terror to teach it to violate civil rights.​

 

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Seems you have missed the entirety of the argument for TikTok.

In particular EUIi,PII, and its associated meta data being under the control of a foreign government with no way to ensure its compliance.

Just say you’re addicted to TikTok. It would save us from attempting to relitigate arguments that have already been litigated up to scotus.

i do not 'use' tiktok, if a link wasn't posted on this forum or a video re-uploaded to reddit, i' go months without going on their website and thats usually through a specific site search from google.

social media can be regulated to collect as much information as this website is able to collect about it's users but they refuse to do that.

there are people like me who don't use tiktok who are saying the same thing, the government shouldn't have the power to ban apps unilaterally. when the government wants to remove some app from the appstore they have to tell them the company violated a local law or get a court order.

ironically enough foreign governments can now make the same claim about american social media companies and try to force a sale or ban them outright.
 
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