Will Smith felt broken after failure of "After Earth"

[Benjamin Sisko]

Question tho breh: What if I saw it and just didn't like it? Am i not supporting my race or not supporting my culture

Tell me what was it about AE that made it a steaming pile of horsehit? It wasnt a kiddy flick like GoG nor a hard-sci fi, intelligent flick like Intersteller, but yall act like it was Green Lantern bad (which it wasnt that bad) or completely uneatchable like The Rocks Hercules (which I turned off the first 5 minutes).

GoG had a immense backstory, that was "done right" so I could see the alocolades it got but when you have a positive black image star in a movie, something in which you dont see in this type of genre in the first place, doesnt mean its Hercules bad or a steaming pile of shyt like the critics want it to be. Thats assassine.

 

[Silver Surfer]

I figured out six sense in the first visit Bruce Willis made to the house.
his only good movie is unbreakable.


Art Barr

I agree...

 

[Art Barr]

And even if that wasn't true, what is true, is it flopped and Will took a L and learned a lesson. Shyt if it gets him doing interesting movies again without worrying about being number one at the box office and he has a great 2nd half of his career like Denzel has continued to have, we should all be thankful.

will really only has one credible moment at making gripping quality genre to genre or industry to industry.

fresh prince = first album
will smith on tv = best gripping emotional portrayal. Why he don't love me ep
will smith on film : First movie with jalen. Which was bulletproof from negative pr, because of who the character portrayal was about.

past that, will really is going to give you pop fluff.
or wannabe gripping emo moments not really thought out well or executed from a variety of realms from quality to culture.
where nikkaz get this idea will is always quality from is a joke.
maybe fresh prince gave people false hope.
all because it was an episodic show.
yet, past that will is not some great bringer of quality or culture like that.


Art Barr

 

[patscorpio]

For real that shyt was NOT that bad, 3/5 was a fair rating. Its no worse than Wild Wild West, imo.

i actually enjoyed wild wild west a little...I did not enjoy after earth.....AT ALL

 

[MartyMcFly]

Tell me what was it about AE that made it a steaming pile of horsehit? It wasnt a kiddy flick like GoG nor a hard-sci fi, intelligent flick like Intersteller, but yall act like it was Green Lantern bad (which it wasnt that bad) or completely uneatchable like The Rocks Hercules (which I turned off the first 5 minutes).

GoG had a immense backstory, that was "done right" so I could see the alocolades it got but when you have a positive black image star in a movie, something in which you dont see in this type of genre in the first place, doesnt mean its Hercules bad or a steaming pile of shyt like the critics want it to be. Thats assassine.

I didn't say it was a steaming pile I said it was bad. I'm not saying it's the worst flick ever or a Uwe Boll franchise flick, just not good. It meandered in parts, then it was all over the place in others, and the characters were meh at best. And more than that, I was bored. I don't like a movie boring me because I'm not invested in anyone on screen

 

[Art Barr]

Tell me what was it about AE that made it a steaming pile of horsehit? It wasnt a kiddy flick like GoG nor a hard-sci fi, intelligent flick like Intersteller, but yall act like it was Green Lantern bad (which it wasnt that bad) or completely uneatchable like The Rocks Hercules (which I turned off the first 5 minutes).

GoG had a immense backstory, that was "done right" so I could see the alocolades it got but when you have a positive black image star in a movie, something in which you dont see in this type of genre in the first place, doesnt mean its Hercules bad or a steaming pile of shyt like the critics want it to be. Thats assassine.

will's issue with ae.
was because he made a scifi flick that jumped past an epic intro to who will's character was.
the Sci fi treatment was well written for a book.
I said that,...
yet, for a Sci fi movie to be praised and be a blockbuster.
it has to have supreme gateway appeal, storytelling and plot.
will's movie had a Sci fi plot that was to elaborate for a gateway consumer.
plus, it was not a gateway story and it had no endearing roles to grasp on to for younger viewers.
it was way to much an advanced Sci fi experience book.
that was not adapted to be a gateway pop film in the genre.
that is completely obvious if you know Sci fi and movies.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

i actually enjoyed wild wild west a little...I did not enjoy after earth.....AT ALL

after the opening will with superbabe scene...
www = one of the worst movies ever made


Art Barr

 

[kp404]

I didn't say it was a steaming pile I said it was bad. I'm not saying it's the worst flick ever or a Uwe Boll franchise flick, just not good. It meandered in parts, then it was all over the place in others, and the characters were meh at best. And more than that, I was bored. I don't like a movie boring me because I'm not invested in anyone on screen

This is a perfect sum up because After Earth doesn't deserve a more critical analysis...the movie makers didn't give a fukk about their own movie and its obvious, so why should we? The shyt was not a non-movie (it had a beginning, middle, and end), but that's it. Unwatchable mess.

 

[kp404]

after the opening will with superbabe scene...
www = one of the worst movies ever made


Art Barr

Yea After Earth is terrible, but Wild Wild West is Will Smith's nadir.

 

[NobodyReally]

After Earth was better then Guardians of the Galaxy IMO.

If people didnt think the hate for AE was solely because of M. Knight, then you havent been paying attention.

And M. Night deserves every bit of hate coming his way. I hate him so very, very much.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

I didn't say it was a steaming pile I said it was bad. I'm not saying it's the worst flick ever or a Uwe Boll franchise flick, just not good. It meandered in parts, then it was all over the place in others, and the characters were meh at best. And more than that, I was bored. I don't like a movie boring me because I'm not invested in anyone on screen

How did it stray off course?? It was pretty consistant throughout the movie. Everyone in the film except Will and Jayden was forgettable. So would Michael Bay and his explosions would make the movie more watchable? The plot was man vs nature and self, something really isnt explored in space-sci-fi that much.You wanted more suspense or something because it provided plenty of that.

I really wanted a sequal and the premise of this movie was a set-up for a awesome one but peope didnt give it a chance, which was sad. A completely original concept in terms of the premise and story but because black people dared to finance something outside of the Hollywood circle and having two black lead characters made the film "unbearable" and universally panned by critics.

 

[MartyMcFly]

How did it stray off course?? It was pretty consistant throughout the movie. Everyone in the film except Will and Jayden was forgettable. So would Michael Bay and his explosions would make the movie more watchable? The plot was man vs nature and self, something really isnt explored in space-sci-fi that much.You wanted more suspense or something because it provided plenty of that.

I really wanted a sequal and the premise of this movie was a set-up for a awesome but peope didnt give it a chance, which was sad. A completely original concept in terms of the premise and story but because black people dared to finance something outside of the Hollywood circle and having two black lead characters made the film "unbearable" and universally panned by critics.

No I wanted an interesting movie. And don't bring Bay in it because his movies lately, minus pain and gain, have bored the hell out of me too. I didn't care about the characters, and everything felt flat to me. That's how I saw it breh, if you didn't that's cool, we saw different movies. But I'm not going to support something just because we're in it; if that was the case, I should go see every tyler perry flick ever made but I'm not because what he's doing isn't for me. I gave After Earth a shot, I didn't like it for the reasons I stated and that was that.

 

[kp404]

Wow @Rainman is really bringing race into this After Earth discussion? That's a fail brother. For one, it was a HOLLYWOOD movie, meaning the producers, outside of Will Smith, were white. Guess who would have profited off the movie if it did well? Whites. Just because black people are in a movie doesn't make it a "black movie." You what a black movie is? When all financiers are black so that all profits go in the pockets of black people. We must own the production of the movie, which rarely happens in Hollywood for obvious reasons. But back to the movie: After Earth was a mega blockbuster for Hollywood and tried to use visuals to mask the terribly boring story and wooden fukking acting from the father and son duo. People gave it a chance, but it was pure shyt. Just like Bay's movies. Stop making excuses for terrible writing, directing, and acting. A bad movie is a bad movie and After Earth is a Bad Movie.

 

[Master Teacher]

After Earth was a failure for will smith, but they recouped the money because it was a hit at the international box office debuting number 1 and the DVD sells, also movies never stop making money because of licensing, so they could easily recoup the 18-20 million the might have lost at the box office

if they would have did in 3D, they would've made over 300 million globally just off box office

Green Lantern, John Carter, and shyt like that battleship are mega flops because their budgets were around 250 million

Jupiter Ascending is a mega flop with a budget of 176 million and the opening weekend only did 18 million domestically, and After Earth did 27 million
but debuted number one internationally yet juptier ascending barely cracks 50 million worldwide, that's a mega flop

Nobody is questioning Channing Tatum's box office appealing after that disaster, yet he had another flop White House Down

which had a budget of 150 million, and opened up domestically at 24 million, and as only done 205 million world wide

but eventually even that will turn profit from cable tv rights, blu ray sells, and licensing

 

[TNC]

It's a bad flick breh. To me anyway. And regardless of that it bombed for him and was his first bomb. That's a wake up call for anyone. Especially when you're used to 20 years of hits

I'm not saying AE wasn't a bad movie, but the bar for Will Smith has been set so high from a quality and success standpoint that anything that isn't a runaway success with him is considered a failure. He's literally the biggest name in movies. Him getting brought down to "mortal" levels shouldn't be looked at as a slight on his ability IMO.