Why don't more rappers make music the average guy can relate to?

[45123]

They top the forbes list because they tour alot based on the records they sold. It's not like they top it like Dr.Dre and Puffy do by not touring and make the list based on their side hustles. I know they both done big things in business im just saying record sales is what got them where they are not their business acumen. Neither guy owns anything of significance as far as business goes.

No way breh
Sure, they cake off tours more than anything, but their business side dealings is what has them topping forbes lists
Kanye's tours and Lil Wayne tours sell a boatload of tickets, but they're not generating 9 digit salaries, Birdman is.

50 - Vitamin Water, G-Unit, Reebok, SK, SMS, Cologne, Endorsements, other business dealings
Jay - Budweiser, Rocawear, BK Nets, 40/40, The Roc label, Ace of Spades, Real estate, endorsements, several other business dealings

Those aren't significant business moves?

 

[45123]

A rapper could transform his experience, contacts and fame into a constant flow of income or just live of dividends from the capital he could invest at his peak of his financial peak if he had been raised like that. Unfortunately a lot of these dudes are not raised like that. Someone like Wiz Khalifa who made 20 dentist yearly salaries in the past 2 years will probably not have a lot of that left in a few years. Dudes probably pay real taxes and shyt and not those Mitt Romney taxes and all that .

If they were living and saving boring, not taking care of their peoples (minus immediate family) like dentists etc, they could probably spread their wealth over their lifetime. If a doctor took huge loans to buy a fly house and cars and take care of their people their "constant flow of income" would be a constant flow of debt reduction.


I can't knock a young dude straight outta the hood for being reckless with money though, it's not really all his fault.

Yeah, which is basically what I'm saying
Comparing a dentist to a rapper is a skewed ass analogy
How many times do we see threads with the title "So how long so-and-so gonna eat off this album"

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

No way breh
Sure, they cake off tours more than anything, but their business side dealings is what has them topping forbes lists
Kanye's tours and Lil Wayne tours sell a boatload of tickets, but they're not generating 9 digit salaries, Birdman is.

50 - Vitamin Water, G-Unit, Reebok, SK, SMS, Cologne, Endorsements, other business dealings
Jay - Budweiser, Rocawear, BK Nets, 40/40, The Roc label, Ace of Spades, Real estate, endorsements, several other business dealings

Those aren't significant business moves?

Those are endorsement deals for the most part. Jay owns less that 1% of the Nets and who knows how much he owns of 40/40 and Rocawear? I take nothing from what he's done but honestly I think if put in the same position I think you could execute those same moves if you sold those amount of records and didn't use drugs.

 

[Broccoli Rob]

Cus they aint ordinary.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Cus they aint ordinary.

Actually they are.

 

[ManBearPig]

ummmm..

the music would be boring maybe...

 

[45123]

Those are endorsement deals for the most part. Jay owns less that 1% of the Nets and who knows how much he owns of 40/40 and Rocawear? I take nothing from what he's done but honestly I think if put in the same position I think you could execute those same moves if you sold those amount of records and didn't use drugs.

Yeah but most rapper's business dealings are endorsement deals anyways
Beats By Dre is practically an endorsement deal for him to appear on the box of the headphones and promote them, Jimmy I runs the operation

Jay dips his hand in investments, sells music records, and maintains an image that's "good for business", its still making business and cash flow nonetheless. Sean John and Beats By Dre are really the only 2 brands I can think of off the top of my head that struck gold (created by rappers)

 

[Broccoli Rob]

Actually they are.

never mind.

 

[Rominati]

So why dont ya nikkas pick up a mic and start dropping bars about how ya baby momma left ya ass cuz you spent too much time on music forums making wack ass threads

 

[Peak]

So why dont ya nikkas pick up a mic and start dropping bars about how ya baby momma left ya ass cuz you spent too much time on music forums making wack ass threads

I wouldn't cop that. I wouldn't be able to relate.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

So what did I say that was wrong?

Hip Hop wasn't birthed out of the blues, not directly anyway...at its inception it was party music in pretty much its purest form...birthed out of DJs looping up funk and other uptempo records at street jams and yelling party chants over them... Rapper's Delight is way more indicative to what the actual foundation of hip hop was...and predates The Message by years...prior to the NL and Cash Money Eras, "everyman" rap sure as hell wasn't the dominant form of rap...various strains of gangsta rap and flossy big willyism had long taken over before they even stepped foot in the game

 

[Beegio]

I wouldn't take a satirical joke in a Chris Rock HBO special as an example though lolz

Being a rapper is the same as running a business
You can't compare a businessman's salary to a dentist's, a dentist has a constant flow of income (depending on their practice), while a businessman has to maintain, support, and build, which is a rapper's same routine. Lil Scrappy and them were probably shytty businessmen or had shytty agents Mac Miller sold 145k independent, that's almost half a millie. Curren$y is stacked from building off mixtapes.

Yousa rounding up ass mufukka.

The scene takes place at the club on friday. WatergunTalk is there celebrating after receiving his GED from the local community college at the age of 22:

WGT: Its a celebration!! Hey ma, you looking too good over here for me not to buy you a drink. Order whatever, its on me!! Ya boy doing it big right about now.

Thirsty Hoodrat: Ooh papi, you a baller huh? What are we celebrating?

WGT: Shiiiiit ma, I ALMOST got my P.H.D. A nikka just got his GED.

Thirsty Hoodrat: Well, about that drink...I ordered it already, for me and my 5 girlfriends, and the bartender is waiting on you to pay.

WTG: I only got $100 dollars on me though.

Thirsty Hoodrat: Well, according to you, that's almost a mili.

Bartender:

 

[No1]

It's really simple. Hip Hop on a mainstream level is geared either towards the teenage crowd or the college crowd (the reason people like J. Cole sell). Those groups of people are still at that point of ambition and partying. Big Sean has songs like "Memories" on his album, but they're not the single. So I disagree with you guys as far as rap music not being what the average man can relate to. You're all just the definition of skimming through music.

It's just that what YOU relate to. But the music isn't targeted towards you. You're demographic isn't what is making rappers money. People talk all this shyt about why some rappers fade out and why is a young man's game and all that and then talk about the older guys who were more "real." Why do you think they faded out? YOU, stopped supporting them. I was too young to not support them. You let them fade out because you didn't buy their albums.

So if what you can relate to isn't prevalent anymore, it's because you let it die.

But back to the point, the people who buy albums do relate to Drake, J. Cole, and the ambition of a guy like Jay. You're no longer the average buyer of hip hop music, and you just failed to realize it. It relates plenty to the guy who bought it, not completely but in many ways.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

It's really simple. Hip Hop on a mainstream level is geared either towards the teenage crowd or the college crowd (the reason people like J. Cole sell). Those groups of people are still at that point of ambition and partying. Big Sean has songs like "Memories" on his album, but they're not the single. So I disagree with you guys as far as rap music not being what the average man can relate to. You're all just the definition of skimming through music.

It's just that what YOU relate to. But the music isn't targeted towards you. You're demographic isn't what is making rappers money. People talk all this shyt about why some rappers fade out and why is a young man's game and all that and then talk about the older guys who were more "real." Why do you think they faded out? YOU, stopped supporting them. I was too young to not support them. You let them fade out because you didn't buy their albums.

So if what you can relate to isn't prevalent anymore, it's because you let it die.

But back to the point, the people who buy albums do relate to Drake, J. Cole, and the ambition of a guy like Jay. You're no longer the average buyer of hip hop music, and you just failed to realize it. It relates plenty to the guy who bought it, not completely but in many ways.

Breh, the song in the OP was made when I was in elementary and every nikka in my school loved that shyt. Adults loved it as well. That single probably went Plat.

 

[No1]

Breh, the song in the OP was made when I was in elementary and every nikka in my school loved that shyt. Adults loved it as well. That single probably went Plat.

That's irrelevant. The song you posted is no different than J. Cole's track about the girl of his dreams on his mixtape. It's not different than any Drake song about chicks, so if that's what you're referring to, it's still there. I assumed you were referring to everything else, and judging by some of people's posts, so were they. Just some basic day to day shyt. How old are you? Do you really think the college and teenage kids are like you?


To my point, when I was in elementary school kids loved "More Money More Problems" and "Hard Knock Life" dropped when I was in like 4th grade. We loved that too. The same way we loved "One Mic" in 7th grade and DMX before that. That's not what is blowing up with teenagers and elementary school kids today.

As far as us (the college kids and those in their early 20s), Cole, Sean, Lupe (to a degree and to certain people), Drake (unfortunately) are very reflective of that group and Kanye used to be, Hov's shyt is where cats want to be. I listen to everybody under the sun but I know hip hop's audience and I know my age group.