Why don't more rappers make music the average guy can relate to?

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today's music scene is thin as hell but thanks to technology they can capitilize on some weak sh!t they try to pass as art. If the 90's had the same reach as technology allowed today, actually f*ck it, it was so damn good, even WITHOUT the net, the world knew bout it.

bout some form of music ppl did cuz they wanted to take away from the struggle.

now all the do is rap bout money, when we are in a depression, and then complain no one buys there sh!t. N1gga if u changed the world with ur ART, they will buy ur SH!T.
 

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Speaking from the point of view of someone who was actually in high school and also ripping/running the streets during the early to mid 90's, the biggest rappers at that time period were Wu-Tang (who were talking about getting paper (ie CREAM), rocking labels ie Hilfiger and Polo, hustling, watching kung fu flicks and spitting 5% terminology)), Biggie (Fat nikka who rocked Versace shades, coogi sweaters, drug kingpin in his raps), Mobb Deep (dudes who hanged out in the PJ's, drinking, getting high, fighting, shooting nikkas, hustling, getting money), Nas (dude from the PJ's that's well versed in books, has a crew he hangs around with, talks about aspirations of riding in Range Rovers and 600 Benz, turned into Drug Kingpin on his 2nd album), Bootcamp Click (dudes in a crew that talked about getting high, shootouts with nikkas, beating nikkas up) Snoop (gangbanger who's into smoking and fukking bytches all day) and even your man Pac (has uplifting messages but also talks about drinking, getting high, fukking chicks, banging on his enemies, etc) I agree that the music back then and what they played on the radio or tv was more versatile. But it was more so the style of music that more versatile. The theme was pretty much the same for the most part (being hard, getting money, clubbing, having your own crew, smashing chicks, packing heat etc) As far as using Skee Lo's I Wish song as an example, lmao. Unless you were in grammar school between the ages of 5-10 when the song was out, nikkas was not bumping no god damn Skee Lo. You may have heard people playfully recite the hook, but that's where it stopped!
 

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Dom Kennedy is a good one.
Raps about being fresh, partying,pulling hoes and being that nikka
 

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Yeah... you got an interesting memory there.

Sure, I will not contend with you that the radio then was more diverse musically than it is today, fair enough.

But this belief that "average guy rap" was poppin' back in the day, like to a point everybody just loved it and those were the biggest hits? Nah bruh. The same summer "I Wish" was a hit- so were songs like "One More Chance" (about a fat-ass nikka who can dress, gets money, and stays with all types of good lookin' women), "Sugar Hill" (a nikka not being broke, but making money and looking forward to makin' a lot more to do all kinds of outlandishly lavish shyt), "I Got 5 On It" (two nikkas who love puttin' their money together and smokin' weed). Face it man, people like whatever entertains 'em, and whatever sounds good to them. Same for the songs you mentioned. If "I Wish", "Back In The Days", etc. didn't have a catchy hook or a nice track, radio nor the record-buying public wouldn't have cared about if it was "real shyt" or not. Don't tell me you think those records got lots of play because of the subject matter alone.

shyt, even Pac (the one you use as an example of making "real shyt" that the average guy (aka, YOU) can relate to) knew there was a formula to making hits. Ain't he the one who told Biggie "don't rap for the nikkas. Rap for the bytches, cause the bytches buy your album, and nikkas want what the bytches want"?

Pac had the most diversified/versatile singles of any nikka that has ever gone platinum. He told Biggie that because he knew the only way he could sell would be on some urban heavy d shyt which Big was able to pull off to an extent. But even if you look at an artist like Game and listen to his 1st album, you would think that "How We Do" or "Higher" would've been his biggest singles based on how they get the club jumping but his biggest single was "Hate it or love it" which shows that if a song is good and played on the radio on the regular the general public would consume it even if he has depth in it's content. So to say ppl wouldn't support that kinda music is a lie because "Hate It Or Love it" was a fukking smash and that song was some shyt nikkas can relate to.
 

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Yeah... you got an interesting memory there.

Sure, I will not contend with you that the radio then was more diverse musically than it is today, fair enough.

But this belief that "average guy rap" was poppin' back in the day, like to a point everybody just loved it and those were the biggest hits? Nah bruh. The same summer "I Wish" was a hit- so were songs like "One More Chance" (about a fat-ass nikka who can dress, gets money, and stays with all types of good lookin' women), "Sugar Hill" (a nikka not being broke, but making money and looking forward to makin' a lot more to do all kinds of outlandishly lavish shyt), "I Got 5 On It" (two nikkas who love puttin' their money together and smokin' weed). Face it man, people like whatever entertains 'em, and whatever sounds good to them. Same for the songs you mentioned. If "I Wish", "Back In The Days", etc. didn't have a catchy hook or a nice track, radio nor the record-buying public wouldn't have cared about if it was "real shyt" or not. Don't tell me you think those records got lots of play because of the subject matter alone.

shyt, even Pac (the one you use as an example of making "real shyt" that the average guy (aka, YOU) can relate to) knew there was a formula to making hits. Ain't he the one who told Biggie "don't rap for the nikkas. Rap for the bytches, cause the bytches buy your album, and nikkas want what the bytches want"?

how many of his singles were geared towards the bytches tho. This is the shyt he put out as singles and planned as singles before he died

Keep ya head up
Brendas got a baby
If my homies call
I get around
So many tears
Dear mama
Temptations
Cali love
All about you
How do u want it
Hail Mary
Toss it up
Gangsta party
I ain't mad at ya
To live and die in LA

Majority of the shyt was not geared towards females.
 

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This is a perfect example of the type of music im talking about

Skee-Lo I Wish - YouTube

99% of the general public can relate to that song as far as nikkas go.
I never met a nikka that owned a maybach or even a ferrari for that matter but yet every artist feels the need to rap about this shyt. Cash out drops his 1st single lying about having a condo on his wrist knowing damn well he can't afford a cottage on his wrist let alone a condo. More nikkas can relate to not getting the finest girl in the club than they can the guy that leaves the club with 2 fine bytches every night. Even the nikkas you know lived a normal life prior to hiphop like Wiz and Big Sean feel the need to not keep it funky. Well I never listened to a Big Sean verse so I couldn't tell you but you get the gist of it.

In the Mainstream that's precisely what people like Kendrick Lamar are doing, a couple others too, Lupe Fiasco, I really wanna highlight Jon Connor too, in the underground there's a lot more like Murs & Fashawn for example.
 

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Can we all agree "Hate It Or Love it" was a smash and it had real content? So why can't more songs like that be on radio?
 

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Drake is very relateable :steviej:
 
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