Why don't more rappers make music the average guy can relate to?

[tremonthustler1]

Get the fukk outta here nikka. Kids consume what they're forced to listen to, it's not as if nikkas rebelled against the current shyt that's on the radio when mainstream forced it down our throats.

Were you forced to listen to music when you were younger? Are you being forced fed music now or are you making your own decisions? College kids go to clubs and party to shyt begrudgingly?

When I 1st started college the Lil Jon/South/Crunk shyt was the hottest shyt out but it's not as if college kids was raised on that type of music at the time. When I was in high school it was all about Ruff Ryders and Rocafella and lyricism so how in the span of 4 years did the college kids that was raised on lyricism become fans of crunk music while they were fans of real hiphop in high school?

Trend. Do you know what the word means? Did Viacom make people change the kind of clothes that people wore? Did Clear Channel make popular interests change from year to year? Man, you sound like those retards on TV One that blame gangsta rap for why every R&B /Soul/old school rap act on Unsung didn't become pop crossover stars.

The answer is Viacom/Clear Channel said this is the new shyt we giving yall and yall gon like it or else.

Or else what? Other than the rapper I like not blowing up to ridiculous levels, there's no consequence to not listening to what the radio is playing. I don't bump any song in the top 10 of the Billboard 100 currently. Guess what? I'll be OK. Viacom isn't gonna punish you for not listening to Flo Rida.

That's when you started seeing nikkas like Jada flopping and barely treading water while Lil Jon had the game in a chokehold.

Jadakiss started struggling because the albums he made weren't as good as they should have been.

The College kids accepted the shyt because they had no alternative if they wanted to be cool.

Like I said, college radio is the EXACT opposite of what is being played in the mainstream. You just sound like someone that has no will power when it comes to peer pressure. If liking Get Low was the only way to be in the crowd, then that wasn't the in crowd. Make your own decisions. That's what a lot of kids and adults are doing.

 

[Bean]

Not at all, Drake,Big Sean and Tyga make that obvious, what im saying for the last fukking time is that REAL SONGS ARE ABSENT FROM MAINSTREAM HIPHOP. SONGS THAT REFLECT TREMONTHUSTLER'S REALITY ARE ABSENT FROM HIPHOP. SKEE-LO TALKING ABOUT BEING REJECTED BY bytchES IS JUST 1 EXAMPLE.

so then you're problem isn't with rappers making songs the average guy can relate to, it's with radio and the mainstream not playin those type of records. so if i were you i would point the blame at the radio and whoever controls the mainstream and not at the rappers themselves.

 

[jadillac]

OP - because "average" is not exciting to rap fans. Average doesn't make rappers seem like larger than life superstars.

A country singer or a rock singer like Springsteen can make music the average guy can relate to but those are different audiences for the most part.

A rapper can make songs about everyday life or love....but he'll be labeled as soft.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

OP - because "average" is not exciting to rap fans. Average doesn't make rappers seem like larger than life superstars.

A country singer or a rock singer like Springsteen can make music the average guy can relate to but those are different audiences for the most part.

A rapper can make songs about everyday life or love....but he'll be labeled as soft.

"Keep ya head up" was a hit bruh. "So Many Tears" was also a hit bruh. "Dear Mama" was a hit bruh. When did our culture get to the point that we only accept dance music and fantasies?

 

[tremonthustler1]

My point is that the culture is totally fukked when all you hear on the radio is fad music. Sure when I was a kid you had songs like "Tootsie Roll" but that shyt wasn't taken serious and radio didn't only play that form of music.

And Skee-Lo was? you might be the only guy that listened to "I Wish" and felt a deeper connection.

Right after "Tootsie Roll" some real shyt came on the radio.

Like C'mon Ride The Train? Like Pump Up The Jam? Like Come Baby Come? Like 100% Pure Love? Like What's Up Doc Can We Rock? Believe it or not, the shyt you thought was on the radio all the time back then really wasn't.

 

[The_Sheff]

OP - because "average" is not exciting to rap fans. Average doesn't make rappers seem like larger than life superstars.

A country singer or a rock singer like Springsteen can make music the average guy can relate to but those are different audiences for the most part.

A rapper can make songs about everyday life or love....but he'll be labeled as soft.

The lyrics dont even make a song anymore, 2Chainz is an example of that. If rappers used a hot beat and talked about normal shyt it would bang just as hard as if they did all the fake im rich shyt.

Man the last straw i had with that type of music was when i was playing the latest Rick Ross and that nikka said some diss pointed at people driving Accords. Now as a nikka that was listening to that track, while driving my Accord, i couldnt help but get offended. Like damn, im just a normal cat trying to listen to some music and im getting dissed, hard.

Hip Hop has to be the only genre of music where the artists shyt on the audience and people eat it up.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

The lyrics dont even make a song anymore, 2Chainz is an example of that. If rappers used a hot beat and talked about normal shyt it would bang just as hard as if they did all the fake im rich shyt.

Man the last straw i had with that type of music was when i was playing the latest Rick Ross and that nikka said some diss pointed at people driving Accords. Now as a nikka that was listening to that track, while driving my Accord, i couldnt help but get offended. Like damn, im just a normal cat trying to listen to some music and im getting dissed, hard.

Hip Hop has to be the only genre of music where the artists shyt on the audience and people eat it up.

I call it republican rap because the average consumer supports it thinking they'll be rich 1 day. Instead of fukking with the real Joe Six pack type of music they can relate to they rather dream of living like Donald Trump while Trump don't give a shyt about them or their struggle.

 

[tremonthustler1]

"Keep ya head up" was a hit bruh. "So Many Tears" was also a hit bruh. "Dear Mama" was a hit bruh. When did our culture get to the point that we only accept dance music and fantasies?

And his biggest hits were California Love and How Do U Want It. Even then, as much as people loved Pac for the depth of his music, it was his party tracks that charted the highest.

 

[jadillac]

The lyrics dont even make a song anymore, 2Chainz is an example of that. If rappers used a hot beat and talked about normal shyt it would bang just as hard as if they did all the fake im rich shyt.

Man the last straw i had with that type of music was when i was playing the latest Rick Ross and that nikka said some diss pointed at people driving Accords. Now as a nikka that was listening to that track, while driving my Accord, i couldnt help but get offended. Like damn, im just a normal cat trying to listen to some music and im getting dissed, hard.

Hip Hop has to be the only genre of music where the artists shyt on the audience and people eat it up.

I was wearing my Rockport shoes one day when a song with Bun B dissed Rockport shoes came on XM radio. I was like

I get ur point tho....but at the end of the day, if I see something at Kohls or arget I want to wear...I'm gonna buy it. Right now the two vehicles I want are both under $25,000 a piece. I'm gonna buy one of them(and enjoy it) or both of them and enjoy them regardless of what x-mainstream rapper says. And I'll let the sheep out here overspend on vehciles and things b/c they heard it in a rap song.

It's the reason I like Drake....although he raps about money/cars at times, he raps about life/love which I can relate to.

Also, no matter how much money i have, i'd never drop 200,000 on a car. Too many ppl starving out here.

"Keep ya head up" was a hit bruh. "So Many Tears" was also a hit bruh. "Dear Mama" was a hit bruh. When did our culture get to the point that we only accept dance music and fantasies?

Yeah, but you gotta remember, Pac was all over the place as an artist. He did real life songs, as well as party songs, as well as gangsta songs.

And he was from a different era.

 

[tremonthustler1]

The lyrics dont even make a song anymore, 2Chainz is an example of that. If rappers used a hot beat and talked about normal shyt it would bang just as hard as if they did all the fake im rich shyt.

Man the last straw i had with that type of music was when i was playing the latest Rick Ross and that nikka said some diss pointed at people driving Accords. Now as a nikka that was listening to that track, while driving my Accord, i couldnt help but get offended. Like damn, im just a normal cat trying to listen to some music and im getting dissed, hard.

Hip Hop has to be the only genre of music where the artists shyt on the audience and people eat it up.

Hip-hop is also the only genre that thrives off of its misery and gets off on their peers annihilating each other lyrically for our own entertainment. The popularity of our music is built on some fukked up shyt you know.

A long time ago, you could make a song like Self Destruction and have it pop off at the club. The hardest thing to do now is to make a positive sounding song pop off in the club. It either comes off too preachy, too bland, pick an excuse. Hell, much of what was poppin in rap had to do with reading books, being in touch with the motherland, educating and stimulating one's mind without the use of drugs and alcohol (no surprise the most popular shows on TV were shows like The Cosby Show and especially A Different World). How can you sell this to Generation YOLO who just wants to live fast, die young, pop Mollys, smoke weed, and do shots til their liver gives out?

 

[the cool]

does making your money long make worth your lifespan being shorter? huh?

 

[Bean]

The lyrics dont even make a song anymore, 2Chainz is an example of that. If rappers used a hot beat and talked about normal shyt it would bang just as hard as if they did all the fake im rich shyt.

Man the last straw i had with that type of music was when i was playing the latest Rick Ross and that nikka said some diss pointed at people driving Accords. Now as a nikka that was listening to that track, while driving my Accord, i couldnt help but get offended. Like damn, im just a normal cat trying to listen to some music and im getting dissed, hard.

Hip Hop has to be the only genre of music where the artists shyt on the audience and people eat it up.

i know im in here defending rappers for havin relatable songs (which they do) but if you think that Accord shyt was bad i suggest you not listen to Trey Songz "Playin Hard" where he clowns some nikka for drivin an 09 Benz

i was like " i don't even have a car, at least he got a Benz" then i was like and

 

[The_Sheff]

Hip-hop is also the only genre that thrives off of its misery and gets off on their peers annihilating each other lyrically for our own entertainment. The popularity of our music is built on some fukked up shyt you know.

A long time ago, you could make a song like Self Destruction and have it pop off at the club. The hardest thing to do now is to make a positive sounding song pop off in the club. It either comes off too preachy, too bland, pick an excuse. Hell, much of what was poppin in rap had to do with reading books, being in touch with the motherland, educating and stimulating one's mind without the use of drugs and alcohol (no surprise the most popular shows on TV were shows like The Cosby Show and especially A Different World). How can you sell this to Generation YOLO who just wants to live fast, die young, pop Mollys, smoke weed, and do shots til their liver gives out?

Really even though a lot of older music was more positive and relatable, the people listening to it werent trying to live that life. They were still popping pills, smoking weed, getting drunk, etc... The biggest Tribe fan i know also happens to be the biggest druggy i know.

Put some regular people songs to a hot beat and people will still buy it. I think the problem has more to do with every fukking body being able to get a record deal now. N*ggas with no brains or skills can luck up and find a hot beat and blow up. There is no such thing as a rapper shytty enough to fukk up a track like Hard in the Paint.

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

NO, that is not true. Everything the radio plays 100x will not be a hit. Yes, the radio can manufacture hits and sometimes manufacture stars, but it's not absolute. That's your problem. You think your opinion is unquestionable. You honestly believe that if shyt like that got play then it would be a hit automatically. No it won't. Not anymore. The fact that you even think so is because you don't know shyt about people younger than you.

No disrespect, but you're unqualified for this conversation.

There was an audience for that Skee-Lo track because society was different, people were different, the sound was different, the fad was different. Don't you get it? That shyt was a fad the same way crunk is. Hip-Hop has always moved in bubbles. The bubble bursts and then something else comes in to replace it. Pretty much every 4 years the predominant sound in Hip Hop changes. When it does, everything sounds like that.

If you're still getting played in spite of that, you're one of those rare superstars. The irony is that hip-hop is in the midst of the very type of era you're begging for, between Drake, Cudi, Wale, J. Cole and Sean, we're in the era of rappers not pretending to be super thugs or extraodinary shyt. They just don't sound the way you want them to.

BTW, Soulja Boy blew up off a song he put on youtube, Drake blew up off a mixtape, the same way Cole got signed, etc. If there was a market for that shyt you're talking about on the mainstream level, it would've crossed over by this point. Mac Miller did. Face it, hip-hop's audience doesn't want that sound you want.

Just like how you guys stopped wanting LL Cool J and cats like that before that.

you have been killing this thread the last few pages


at how succintly you have said everything needs to be said



i aint about that dikkriding shyt, but this is quality posting at its finest

 

[RTF]

Life is real, life is harsh. I don't need a form of entertainment constantly reminding of this fact.

How many of your favourite movies can you literally relate too? How many of your favourite albums (any era) can you relate too?

Relating to music has to be the single most over-rated thing. I want my artists to paint interesting pictures and stories. That Mario Puzo shyt. It's easier to paint a picture when it's based on real life but its not a necessity.