LOL...you're creating this idea and notion that women are consciously having kids with men that THEY KNOW will abandon their child, and leave them high and dry. This violates all basic common sense with respect to incentivizing. Women have to go through the pain of labor, and the decades long hardship of raising a child on their own. Men can just dip...so I think its fair to say that, generally speaking, women are under the assumption that they are going to have a future with these men, and are manipulated or led astray in some form.
And before you say "THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!" --- well, poor judgement and bad decision making is fueled by things like personal self esteem issues, poor education, and troubled upbringings. This is often true for the males as well.
But I would buy that you guys are simply well intentioned and want to see women make better choices, if not for the fact that you cats are complete hypocrites.
Whenever we see examples or threads around here of women who are very selective, demanding, and have high qualifications for the men they date, you cats get outraged. You scream and cry about "hypergamy", "feminism", and victimize yourself as living in a world of entitled women who wont give an average man a shot.
So you see how these two worlds of thought are in direct conflict with each other? That signifies that you guys are full of sht. It doesnt take a nuclear physicist to figure out that you cats are just making sht up as you go along, and fitting everything around your caustic, nasty, mean-spirited, and negative views you have on all women.
I have to respectfully disagree on some points here.
First, dudes do get burned by women who aint sh#t based on them having low self-esteem, poor upbringing, etc. But does that take away from the responsibility they would have if a child were born? No. Does that take away from the fact that they chose to have a child by a punk a## b#tch? No.
So, dudes would understand why. But dudes would still let him know why and how he messed up. They would clown the chick, but they would still clown the dude for picking her as well. Too many women just clown the deadbeat without clowning the woman for letting the deadbeat run up in her.
Second, no dude of sound mind is going to clown a woman who has high expectations for who she dates because that means she values her body, mind and time.
BUT there is a difference between having high standards and having unrealistic standards.
What dudes have a problem with is woman who are nickels expecting to have dimes bow down and cater to her.
Sensible woman with high standards:
- only dates men with a stable source of income, their own place, their own car, no kids
- only has sex once in a committed, monogamous relationship with the man she's dating
- expects a man to treat her with kindness, courtesy and respect...and she does the same for him
- won't date a man who's already dating others
- she has all the above and expects no more from the man than she expects of herself...she treats the man like she wants to be treated...so her standards guide her behavior just as much as his
Unrealistic woman with high standards:
- only dates men who make 100k or better, owns a 3BR house or more, their own European car, no kids...and he must be in impeccable shape
- only has sex once the dude takes her on enough expensive dates and/or gives her enough gifts
- expects a man to treat her like a lady but believes she's "strong and independent", so he needs to "be a man" and accept her mood swings
- dates other men but expects the dude to be all about her and cater his schedule to her. Oh, and treat her like she's Virgin Mary
- she has NONE of the above and expects way more than she can give even if sponsored by Visa, Nike and Google
Peace