Why Aren’t Black Students Picking Majors That Lead to High-Paying Jobs?

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Fukk that at one point I made 20k in a month off of trapping. Its going to take alot more than to get cats in the hood interested in stem
Yeah, it sucks. Some say you ought to be in it for the education and stuff but with the economy gong on and the types of neighborhoods some of us come from, nobody has time to spend 4+ years in school
 

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I agree with you on this one. One thing my job has taught me is that science degrees are useless unless you plan on going to med school. The maximum starting salary for a lab tech is around 42k and that's at the sr level. If you're fresh out of college with no job experience, you'll probably be making around 27k. I even have scientists with Ph.D.'s making 80k/year.:snoop:

I wouldn't call them extremely useless but you have to be willing to be content with 80K even with a PhD while someone with a Masters might be making just as much. At the end of the day, that salary is a lot more than what most have. I just want to be comfortable and happy. I'm thinking of going into industry just because I want my damn payoff but... You're right though, med school is pretty much a guaranteed "set for life" ticket. I'll also be applying to MD/PhD programs. God, the only draw back is the extra 8 years of school +residency +rotations.

Even thought I'm salty about it, 35K for me at 23 is ok, right now. I'm with my parents, thank God. I would definitely lose it if this salary was my max. Never.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your job?
 

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Is engineering tough? What you gotta be good at?
It's tough but people think it's tough for the wrong reasons . You don't need to be eistein but you better have a work ethic. If you think college should be more about partying then don't go into engineering. There is a constant feeling that you're no studying enough. It's a hazing of hard work honestly. If you're average or above average intelligence then the conceptual parts of a lot of engineering is doable. If you're LAZY then you'll regret the decision.
 

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I wouldn't call them extremely useless but you have to be willing to be content with 80K even with a PhD while someone with a Masters might be making just as much. At the end of the day, that salary is a lot more than what most have. I just want to be comfortable and happy. I'm thinking of going into industry just because I want my damn payoff but... You're right though, med school is pretty much a guaranteed "set for life" ticket. I'll also be applying to MD/PhD programs. God, the only draw back is the extra 8 years of school +residency +rotations.

Even thought I'm salty about it, 35K for me at 23 is ok, right now. I'm with my parents, thank God. I would definitely lose it if this salary was my max. Never.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your job?
I work at the college of medicine at the university I graduated from. I handle hr, fiscal, and grants for our faculty. I'm making 41k at 24, not too shabby for someone with a liberal arts degree:ehh:
I'm also working on my mba in finance so I don't plan on staying at this position for long but I do enjoy the academic sector and it had great benefits. lol
 

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Honesty time.
I was a STEM major (graduated in December) and tbh, unless you majored in Engineering, hell even a specific type of engineering, you are NOT going to be making 60K+ straight away. I majored in MCDB (molecular, cellular, and developmental biology) with a minor in physics. At most, even with my experience, I stand to make around 30-35K as a lab tech (stepping stone for me to pay off loans before grad school. smh). If you have less experience, you'll mak around 25-30K. The salary doesn't even really get any better because most Masters programs don't pay you and your stipend for a PhD program will prob only be around 30K. Those of us in STEM that are non-engineering majors pretty much have to keep going to school just to distinguish ourselves from other STEM folks. How the hell do you live comfortably on 25K esp when you hit your late twenties?

Don't even get me started on Academia vs. Industry. I love research but you mean to tell me that as a Senior Microbiologist I'd have a better chance making 100K+ working for the NIH and only 60K for a University. Now, if I were to get a Masters with a certain level of experience, I could make around 75K. How does that work?

STEM is such a double edged field. Most us will probably be giving half of our salaries back due to loans.

You really have to be in it because you love it.

Tbh, I find that a lot of Black students get discouraged from pursuing this field. Note, a lot of us just might not be interested in STEM which is TOTALLY fine. Lots of successful Black folk in business, the arts, english, social studies, etc. We need to stop short changing those fields. A lot of us do get turned away. My sophomore year, I wanted to declare and this dumb white hoe told me I wasn't a "top student" with a 3.6 even though I def qualified for the Honors Program. She really fukked up my confidence and I almost switched to something easier because of it. My friend had a counselor take the pen out of her hand while signing and told her to pick something else. A lot of non-Blacks don't want us in these harder fields and will do some slimy shyt to prevent it from happening.

And what exactly did you plan on doing with this major? LOL I mean I'm not laughing at you but JUST because it's a STEM major doesn't mean it's useful. For this major, you need at least a doctorate to make bank (I just googled it). I just find it hard to have sympathy for anyone that blindly takes on a major without doing proper research and in this day and age people have no excuse. And IF you are going to take on these majors you need to network your ass off. You should be on a first name basis with all the faculty of that department and trying to do internships (paid or unpaid) with every company that hires within that major.
 

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how does a nikka get into IT? talking from the ground up.
It really depends on what you want to do. If you are truly interested, get a hold of an old computer, take that bytch apart, identify the parts and then put the bytch back together. If you like doing that, it will prepare you for the A+ certification which should be enough to get you a helpdesk gig. If you're not into hardware, you can go the developer route and use a site like khan academy to practice programming languages. Google the most pertinent languages and start from there. I think it's really going to require some research of what are the most upward trending IT positions and what are the barriers to entry.
 

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And what exactly did you plan on doing with this major? LOL I mean I'm not laughing at you but JUST because it's a STEM major doesn't mean it's useful. For this major, you need at least a doctorate to make bank (I just googled it). I just find it hard to have sympathy for anyone that blindly takes on a major without doing proper research and in this day and age people have no excuse. And IF you are going to take on these majors you need to network your ass off. You should be on a first name basis with all the faculty of that department and trying to do internships (paid or unpaid) with every company that hires within that major.

Uh, I plan on being a physician scientist. I majored in that because it was the most direct way to get into lab work for me plus the courses were the most interesting to me (very little room to move around for other bio/chem majors). :/ My first PI (private investigator..ran the lab I worked in) is the director of the Biology programs at my school and I was just at her house for drinks. Lol. My first publication is coming out next year. I've worked for several other physicians as well. 3 interviews lined up next month. I think I'm doing okay.

Lol, my entire post was meant to iterate the fact that not ALL Stem majors come out of the gate making big money. If you read a little further, I state that and het fact that you also need to LOVE the major in order to stick with it and handle everything that comes with being successful in that field. My first major was biomedical engineering and I hated it.

Most folks going into Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Maths, etc. hardly ever stop at a B.S. If you do there's always biotech companies, hospitals, food companies, etc. where you can make big money but that's industry. :/

Majoring in MCDB doesn't limit me to one area of science. If I wanted I could take on a forensics job and make 50K. It really depends on what you want to do. Me, I'm interested in academia so my road to making 50k+ is going to be a little longer.
 
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Why should people, specifically blacks, be forced into majoring things they even dont like? For the sake of the whole.

Why don't they start making jobs that are better suited for these, "useless", majors instead of letting them be useless? Everybody can't handle going blind infront of a monitor.


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because it fuels social mobility as a race.......

What kind of linear self centered ungrateful thinking is this ?
 
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This. I knew a lot (myself included) of black students in my freshman class that started off as Engineering/CS (you can make big bucks:krs:), but if don't have strong mathematical skill coming out of high school, you're climbing a very uphill battle academically if you want to graduate in less than six years, and there's still a lot of competition for internships and jobs (especially in the cities), at least at the state university I went to.


Not to discourage any brehs from majoring in engineering/cs :whoa: but this whole "black people don't do stem" was hogwash in my experience. And honestly, imo engineering majors at descent/good HBCU's have a big leg up than if you're going to a regular state school.




Why in the world is there demand for male nurses specifically?:heh:

Probably just lack of male representation in the field.
 

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that's another thing, these trap nikkas have me ready to quit school and start trapping

dog when you see nikkas in your age grabbing 20k a month CASH, that shyt will fukk with your mind OD. it will really make you question whether this school bullshyt is worth it
especially when professors aint even really making shyt either :heh:
 

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Because math and science is "hard" and people always encourage them to do what they love. News flash 90% of degrees are worthless. This especially applies to women, they choose the shyttiest majors by far.
I went out on a date with a chick and she told me majored in deaf studies
YES nikka SHE MAJORED IN DEAF STUDIES :mindblown: why?!!
 

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A lot of people were just not adequately prepared in elementary and high school for the demands/rigors of a STEM education.

Having said that, networking + school prestige goes along way to employment -- moreso than the degree from what I've seen
Definitely need to step up on my networking game :wow:
 

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*yawns*

whites major in political science and still get hired by McKinsey, Goldman and the Fed Reserve

Whites built America off the backs of black people to build wealth that doesn't belong to them (it's black people wealth not there's) they can get bullshyt majors or have a high school education and still make 6 figures.

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