Who are we fooling? HL is a joke

[newarkhiphop]

Exhibit A. Thank you.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

i am under the impression that many of the posters in HL lack basic literary understanding, barely even regard the idea of human compassion, and possess limited to non-existent critical thinking skills. it's like some of them have never read a book before.

i don't even waste my time. occasionally there is a mildly eyebrow-raising interesting thread that is worth checking here and there but most of the time it is not even worth a response. and i am not trying to laud myself as mentally superior or some sort of elitist brainiac but we still have a vast overwhelming majority of the people posting on the coli who hate and fear gays, hold onto detrimental and dangerous views on race, have extremely limited or wholly misogynistic views towards women, or simply don't want to try and lift themselves out of the pit of ignorance they have been trapped in by our media or internet discussion boards or youtube comments. the fact that people preach from the mountaintops regarding religious dogma ad nauseum or worship lowly foolish trolls in other subforums on here is sad and pretty pathetic. and i am no humorless stick in the mud either. i love clowning around and having a good time but the lack of productive discussion is something that will stick around unless those unwilling to re-examine their positions on numerous issues through critical thinking get a clue.

The human compassion and race thing really has me sad. I expect the treatment towards women because its a hip hop/sports site, but the cism and general lack of concern for the fellow man is disturbing. And its seen as totally acceptable

Spoiler

unless its against black people of course

Im happy that BK and brooklynzson seem to be good dudes who arent racists in any sense, but they dont seem to wanna change the moderation of their site to have any standards in this regard.

People are just so willing to throw others under the bus here. Its so demonic, friend.

 

[newarkhiphop]

@ "unless its black people" that's laughable take it out of the spoilers don't worry the "homeboys" ain't gonna hurt you

 

[STEVE]

i just read someone say they don't believe in dinosaurs. i'm done. wait, now i have been resurrected by the lord. whoops - still

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@ "unless its black people" that's laughable take it out of the spoilers don't worry the "homeboys" ain't gonna hurt you

nobody's afraid of you, its being used for comic effect

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yes I am mad. I'm mad at the failure of the public education system in Newark at teaching kids how to critically think.

I'm mad at the fact that are people who are so intellectually feeble that they don't understand what a virus is, how they evolve and operate, and make asinine fact-devoid assumptions rooted in paranoia, prejudice, and fear without even researching HIV, epidemiology, or basic virology in the slightest.

I'm mad that you all double down on your bullshyt when you're presented with factual reality, and that you don't at least possess the wisdom to say you don't understand so you'll leave it alone.

I'm mad that anyone can still be this in the dark in the information age where you can learn about anything conceivable with greater ease than ever before.

I'm mad that so many of you exist in the world and seemingly want to knock us back to the Dark Ages before the advent of modern medicine and the scientific method and are fukking it up for the rest of us who are grounded in facts, sanity, and logic.

 

[Savior]

I like lurking on these forums to read news that might not get reported or get underreported by the major news networks . But yea there's way too much trolling when this ain't really the place for it. I don't see an issue with banning obvious trolls when it hurts the forums more than helps. The fact that you gotta have something about islam or race in the thread title to get any hits prolly doesn't help either

 

[Brown_Pride]

Those VVD you know it works in cycles. You been around long enough. It is getting bad for sure but be real do we really need to ban people or can we just IGNORE THEM. KTL/HL has always had the potential, and sometimes it does deliver.

Bottom line is:
1. Don't feed the trolls
2. @BarNone - kill the trolls (at somepoint it just becomes spam. If we're not responding and they are posting the same shyt it's just spam bruham)

It's really that simple. The beauty of this place IS that you have generational knowledge here now. Before when the OG's were at it we did have to hash out and weed out all the 5% nonsense, real crazy religious nuts, the attempts at weather control via the mind, etc, etc we've seen those roads and now have the forum (literally) to help direct other minds around those pitfalls. Essentially we have the opportunity to becomes the shoulders the next generation stands on.

By my last estimation we have more than a dozen PROFESSIONALS, career professionals here at HL, the vast majority OG's. You show me another random "hip hop" forum that boasts that pedigree.

...we just gotta kill the trolls.

 

[Won Won]

i am under the impression that many of the posters in HL lack basic literary understanding, barely even regard the idea of human compassion, and possess limited to non-existent critical thinking skills. it's like some of them have never read a book before.

i don't even waste my time. occasionally there is a mildly eyebrow-raising interesting thread that is worth checking here and there but most of the time it is not even worth a response. and i am not trying to laud myself as mentally superior or some sort of elitist brainiac but we still have a vast overwhelming majority of the people posting on the coli who hate and fear gays, hold onto detrimental and dangerous views on race, have extremely limited or wholly misogynistic views towards women, or simply don't want to try and lift themselves out of the pit of ignorance they have been trapped in by our media or internet discussion boards or youtube comments. the fact that people preach from the mountaintops regarding religious dogma ad nauseum or worship lowly foolish trolls in other subforums on here is sad and pretty pathetic. and i am no humorless stick in the mud either. i love clowning around and having a good time but the lack of productive discussion is something that will stick around unless those unwilling to re-examine their positions on numerous issues through critical thinking get a clue.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Like I said, it just could be my perspective changing over time. I remember when I was first lurking on sohh, KTL was dead and full of conspiracy nuts like that Kyoon guy and there was very little substantive conversation. Then it had a bit of a renaissance and there was some really thoughtful discussion infused with the usual sohh fukkery. Around then, a lot of posters were debunking irrational nonsense and it was marginalized in favor of healthy discussion.

But like I said there's a bunch of long time regulars who have went so many rounds with each other and already know everyone else's opinion on all the big issues so it's redundant at this point.

I've been past feeling like debunking bullshyt and prefer reading and engaging in constructive conversations like our podcast ones. But when you come here and see threads like your boy newarkhiphop and kingsmen going on and on about stupid AIDS conspiracy bullshyt and being utterly immune to logic and facts it kinda just drives home the point that this place doesn't live up to its namesake. I don't think there's anything we can do about that unless you start banning people for not being able to present arguments that are predicated on reason and facts which is a rabbit hole we probably don't want to go down because we don't want to start censoring. So it is what it is.

Regarding banning trolls, I don't have a strong view either way but I don't see why you can't ban trolls from HL just because people respond to them when there's a note under the forum heading that clearly says "no trolling." It would seem to me that you shouldn't mod HL in the same manner that you would say the Coliseum based on that. It's the same 3 or 4 people that always respond to the trolls anyway. All it takes is one troll and one responder to derail a whole thread, so how fair is that to the majority who doesn't troll or respond to trolls? Maybe if most people are telling you they want you to ban trolls it's something you should rethink.

had a chance to read more of your sentiment and the one thing that has always stuck out is this

But like I said there's a bunch of long time regulars who have went so many rounds with each other and already know everyone else's opinion on all the big issues so it's redundant at this point.

this was and always will be the biggest trouble for this site. At some point you run out of shyt to say. Short of something like "a book of the month" club type thing to help foster discussion we're going to run into that.

Based on the 1000 of people who were here during the election night romps we know HL gets read, maybe not responded to but when you think about it HL is like a shark tank, not manny fish willing drop into a shark tank unless they to are sharks.

Most 14-20 year old are gonna have a hard time in here if they aren't given the opportunity to really learn.

Matter of fact Tangental story time.
I have a 19 year old. He came to me about a week ago talking about Niburu and about 2012 shyt right. He's a smart guy for the most part, but he had some serious questions he just didn't knwo answers to. If he where to come in here asking the questions he asked me his head would have been bitten clean the fuk off. However, as he was my son I directed him towards a better way and now we poke fun at "those" people together (family bonding).

Point being there are a lot of people out there that JUST DON'T KNOW. and there's nothing wrong with that, but when WE (HL) cannot provide a forum for that type of lack of knowledge to be addressed then really wtf we doing here?

You know what we need? A HL welcoming committee.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Real talk the fukkery on here does actually warn off some of the more intelligent posters on the site. I saw @TrueEpic08 dropped off

 

[TrueEpic08]

Real talk the fukkery on here does actually warn off some of the more intelligent posters on the site. I saw @TrueEpic08 dropped off

Just busy. It is the end of the semester after all.

Plus, I'm not sure everyone wants to hear my latest research into Non-Philosophy, Speculative Materialism/Nihilism and the Comte de Lautreamont.

But mostly just busy.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Just busy. It is the end of the semester after all.

Plus, I'm not sure everyone wants to hear my latest research into Non-Philosophy, Speculative Materialism/Nihilism and the Comte de Lautreamont.

But mostly just busy.

Ill listen to it

I feel you. I'm done today. One last chapter test

 

[newarkhiphop]

Yes I am mad. I'm mad at the failure of the public education system in Newark at teaching kids how to critically think.

I'm mad at the fact that are people who are so intellectually feeble that they don't understand what a virus is, how they evolve and operate, and make asinine fact-devoid assumptions rooted in paranoia, prejudice, and fear without even researching HIV, epidemiology, or basic virology in the slightest.

I'm mad that you all double down on your bullshyt when you're presented with factual reality, and that you don't at least possess the wisdom to say you don't understand so you'll leave it alone.

I'm mad that anyone can still be this in the dark in the information age where you can learn about anything conceivable with greater ease than ever before.

I'm mad that so many of you exist in the world and seemingly want to knock us back to the Dark Ages before the advent of modern medicine and the scientific method and are fukking it up for the rest of us who are grounded in facts, sanity, and logic.

what facts and reality? one dude in there who started off by saying that aids came from bushmen having sex with monkeys


i wish i could make that shyt up dudes are defending a theory that says African bushman went out and had sex with monkeys, i call bullshyt and am the troll


o and lets not forget factual reality in this place is a joke when every other thread since it inception has been "Muslim savages do ______________ " and what happens to those threads ? the same old circle jerk comes in patting each other on the back

yall really act like your the only ones who ever took a biology class or geography class or a political science class gtfoh

like i said before fuk out here with bytching every chance you get like a little girl

oooooooooooooooooooooooooo barnone barnone plz make them censor pics

ooooooooooooooooooooooo the HL has so many trolls guys what are gonna do

pull ya skirt down b

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

HL trying to explain science: