Who are we fooling? HL is a joke

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Sensitive Blake Griffin

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do you think calling the prophet a pedophile a couple dozen more times is going to suddenly convert them or something?
no, I don't give a fukk what they do, but it makes me feel better to hit them with the same level of stupidity that they hit us with on a CONSTANT basis.
 

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...But this place is a joke to be honest. It's had its moments...
On paper, the idea of "Higher Learning" sounded great.

But it can only go as far as the overall IQ level of the members. And this place is loaded with functional retards.
 

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I'm sorry but there wouldn't be so many negative islamic threads if the main perpetrators of everything that is wrong with HL weren't islamic themselves. There are a couple that are ok but the vast majority breathe ignorance and exhale the most garbage posts I've ever read in my ENTIRE life.

Vast majority?

Everyone is responsible for their own part.. you can't blame anyone but yourself if you make a thread. You can blame being obsessed with hating Muslims, on the couple Muslim posters that upset you.
 

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Let me just say this about the debate over the tenor of posting in this forum, or rather how people perceive it should be like:

When you click on The Coliseum, TLR, The Booth, The Arcadium, JBO and their respective subforums, there are always specific ways in which the posters communicate. Some more than others (Sports culture and the like), but the discussions all have a subtle thematic to them relating to the main topic of the content of the forum. With that in mind, I find it a bit much to attempt to see make a forum called Higher Learning, even on a board that guarantees that it's not going to be that academic at all, the forum to be totally understood by the lay person, as if we must absolutely and completely eliminate terminology and jargon from our posts just for them to understand.

It's the Higher Learning forum. The very name tells you about the nature of the discussions on here. It's where you go to find new tidbits about life, politics and philosophy that you may not know about, or want to discuss in a higher-than-casual fashion (Admittedly, not everyone is posting like me at all. I don't mind. And please don't start). The very nature of learning about new concepts is the ability to work through the language in which the concept is originally formulated in. You can only reduce it so much before losing the very nature of that concept in attempting to communicate it.

It just seems to me that, if you're trying to put everything in layperson terms, then you're defeating the purpose of a Higher Learning forum, which is to learn about new concepts, a part of which is the jargon, like it or not (there's also the ever present threat of anti-intellectualism inherent in such a statement, but that's another discussion). Let them work through it, and trust that the people who want to read the forum (education level be damned) will work through it in order to precisely understand the concepts, instead of just engaging in circumlocution and dumbing everything down for everyone. I find the latter more insulting to the layperson far more than the former.

You know I'm with you more than I'm not with you, but I can't fully agree with this. The greatest communicators can simplify what they're saying so that they appeal to a wide-ranging audience. I'm not even talking about dumbing down. I'm talking about being able to explain complicated things in simple ways. You're harping about jargon, but that's not what the argument is about. That's more something I said to you once in a sarcastic joking way that I guess some people took serious, didn't I say the same thing about one of your music reviews before? It was just a restatement of those remarks. But we won't do that. Besides you and I both know that just speaks someone is eloquent it doesn't mean that they are correct. I've never been told by anyone they don't want to post in HL because they "speak so well."

I don't insult any so-called "layperson" by respecting their opinion as an expression of their person to the point where I don't come at their head. It's like this, on the other forums, it's fukkery, on here people are trying to give thoughtful responses, people don't want to look dumb or be attacked. Further, we discuss with ourselves however we want. I don't think anyone will ever look at at the rare back and forth between the two of us and think that we're "dumbing down" or not making cogent arguments. I think just watching that alone has educational value for someone who may not know. So that spirit of HL should exist, the mean-spirited-ness (brought along by trolls as well), should not. I don't want to be part of dissuading others from participating. No one is telling anyone to stop writing the way that they do, that was just supposed to be an inside joke between me and you that I guess you didn't recall from when you wrote your Bobby Left Field article.
 

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WELL LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN, BROTHER! HOLLYWOOD DOESN'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT, BUT VICTORVONDOOM FEEDS THE TROLLS EVERY DAY, DUDE! I UNDERSTAND HOW TIRING IT IS TO SEE THE SAME FALSEHOODS REPEATED DAY IN AND DAY OUT, AND THAT YOU HAVE A DESIRE FOR YOUNG HIP HOP HEADS TO LEARN, BUT YOU'RE RIDING THAT TRAIN IN A LOT OF THESE DERAILED THREADS, CHAMP! I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT TALKING ABOUT A NEED FOR DECORUM AND THEN CALLING PEOPLE "fukkING fakkitS" IS A PART OF THE REASON WHY PROGRESS IS SLOW, MAN!

THE HULKSTER SEES THESE VANILLA MIDGETS SINCERELY POSTING THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IN THE CONSPIRACY THREAD, AND THAT REALLY DOES DISTURB ME SINCE PAUL HEYMAN IS A PERSONAL FRIEND OF MINE, BUT INSTEAD OF RAGING AT THE POSTER AND GETTING MYSELF ACCUSED OF BEING A ZOG AGENT, I JUST HIT THAT REPORT BUTTON AND ASSUME BARNONE HAS THE COMMON SENSE TO REALIZE WHAT HATEFUL shyt IS BEING OPENLY PEDDLED HERE, BROTHER!

AND I AGREE ABOUT THE AIDS/HIV THING BEING A GENUINELY DANGEROUS IDEA, MEAN GENE! I LOVE THE COLI'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PURE, UNADULTERATED fukkERY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YELLING "AIDS DOESN'T COME FROM HIV" IN A CROWDED THEATER HERE, DUDE!

I'M ALSO TIRED OF ATHEISTS STOOPING TO TROLLING RELIGIOUS POSTERS INSTEAD OF POLITELY ENGAGING THEM IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY, BROTHER! EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE MAY SHOW THAT TAKING YOUR VITAMINS HAS A MEASURABLY GREATER EFFECT THAN SAYING YOUR PRAYERS, BUT ACCUSING PEOPLE OF WORSHIPING PEDOPHILES IS A SUREFIRE WAY TO CANCEL ANY POSSIBLE CONVERSATION, MAN!

THAT SAID, MEAN GENE, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT PODCAST, BROTHER! I LIKE TO LISTEN WHILE I'M AT GOLD'S GYM PUMPING IRON WITH MY CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER AND SLY STALLONE!


GOAT POSTER :wow:
 

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Vast majority?

Everyone is responsible for their own part.. you can't blame anyone but yourself if you make a thread. You can blame being obsessed with hating Muslims, on the couple Muslim posters that upset you.
I don't even THINK about Muslims outside of this retarded forum. I don't hate Muslims, most of my coworkers are muslims and they're EXTREMELY nice people and hard workers. I talk shyt about Muslims to piss off other muslim posters because they're stupid and annoying. (the majority here in HL.. NOT ALL)
 

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I don't even THINK about Muslims outside of this retarded forum. I don't hate Muslims, most of my coworkers are muslims and they're EXTREMELY nice people and hard workers. I talk shyt about Muslims to piss off other muslim posters because they're stupid and annoying. (the majority here in HL.. NOT ALL)

Most of your co-workers are Muslim, but you don't think about Muslims? How, the fact that you even know their religion means that you think about the sh1t. None of my co-workers know my beliefs. I think they think that I'm atheist, because of some of the sh1t I talk about and the fact that I hold the office down around Christmas time; use my vacation for important things.

You talk sh1t about Muslims simply because that's the type of person you are... you can't blame it on anyone else. "Peace" is what you need friend.
 

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:bert: No one said that you want a clique. I said you are unintentionally referencing what people believe. Perception does not necessarily equal reality. Do you know what people mean when they say clique here? They mean the same cast of characters, essentially you just restated what I said in different terms. shyt, I'm included in that clique when they make those references, so I don't get your issue. Do you think I agree with it fully? :childplease: You're smart enough to know what I meant, I don't know why you're being purposefully obtuse. Anyway, I already gave my two cents. But on one point, name one prominent thread on this board that I'm not apart of? Not reading repetitive stuff is not the equivalent to not reading the board.

This "troll epidemic" is overstated, how do you know that we haven't had discussion about Slaimon. and that ilk? I said last week mods and admins were looking into it. Racism? The majority of which comes from black posters and I get called a sell out when I deal with them? Has there every been an instance of racism that you reported that I did not address? These complaints are statistically overstated. The same people here now, were here during the election season and because the attention was so much on politics, no one cared or noticed. You're noticing now because they're able to stand out more on a stagnant board where people respond to them. When that immigration bill heats up, these guys will be a moot point. Most people like HL in some capacity, just not enough to post consistently and I think "we" are part of the problem, :manny:. Breathe. I'm not sitting here trying to argue about pet peeves.
I'm gonna have a lot to say about this post and you when I have some free time later on.
 

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Most of your co-workers are Muslim, but you don't think about Muslims? How, the fact that you even know their religion means that you think about the sh1t. None of my co-workers know my beliefs. I think they think that I'm atheist, because of some of the sh1t I talk about and the fact that I hold the office down around Christmas time; use my vacation for important things.

You talk sh1t about Muslims simply because that's the type of person you are... you can't blame it on anyone else. "Peace" is what you need friend.
Nah. Their religion never comes up during work (they are mostly older female muslims and talk to eachother in arabic). I don't think about religion in my day-to-day life unless its thrust upon me from an outside source. I've been an atheist since 7th grade, shyt is old as fukk to me now. I only know they're muslims because of them speaking arabic and because of ramadan. I talk shyt to muslims because it's fun to troll stupid people that I dislike on these forums. Call it, trolling a troll.

And I'm peaceful as hell, this is a fukking random internet hiphop forum, all of this shyt is meaningless and if you're catching REAL life feelings over posts then you need to get a life. This is all jokes.
 
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