Who are we fooling? HL is a joke

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i even tried to do something completely different with the meat thread and slaimon still shytted it up posting links to muslim book sites and shyt. :dead:
 

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Jesus christ.....

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Home Page


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There really isn't anything to criticize atm. No real controversial issues. Most people here seem to be "liberal minded". The only thing really happening is the rethugs f*cking up hard, from fox news becoming irrelevant to members of congress refusing to compromise :yawn:


We can't have any discussions on the "theory" of space, because it's mandatory for society to understand more about the ocean floor first :manny:

edit: wtf is this HL elite sh*t. :snoop:

As for the HL "elite shyt" I told y'all about that months ago, a large segment of people feel that way. HL elite = HL regular who thinks he's smarter than everybody and shows it in his/her approach as to opposed to coming across as regular peoples.

To use myself as a proxy: I forget who it was I think it was NonyaBee or someone who came in here like a month before the election and HL people were about to kill her because she had a skewed view of Ron Paul. I and only like two other people talked to her like she was just regular peoples. That's not to say I'm not someone who does it too, I tend to respond to HL posters the way they write so it's like an on/off switch. But that's why people sometimes don't like to post in HL, it's the equivalent to how a Kendrick Lamar album connects with people while a more pretentious rap album won't.

I guess I wasn't clear in where I was going a couple of months ago when I was saying to make it so that more people want to post here. For perhaps no other reason than that people won't all be sick of each other.

Shout out to the homie @newarkhiphop, you had mad heart yo:smugfavre:
 
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i even tried to do something completely different with the meat thread and slaimon still shytted it up posting links to muslim book sites and shyt. :dead:

You should've reported that.

I guess I have to write the equation.

Ignoring poster + them spamming a thread while no one responds to them = ban from thread.

It's what houston was trying to tell Lakers fans when that dude was spamming the thread yesterday. I guess it's like an unwritten rule, unless the guy is doing something inflammatory or trying to advertise something, that kind of leeway tends to be given.
 

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You should've reported that.

I guess I have to write the equation.

Ignoring poster + them spamming a thread while no one responds to them = ban from thread.

It's what houston was trying to tell Lakers fans when that dude was spamming the thread yesterday. I guess it's like an unwritten rule, unless the guy is doing something inflammatory or trying to advertise something, that kind of leeway tends to be given.
I mean to be honest a great deal of Slaimon's posts are advertising based in nature for book sites and quran shyt. But theyre stores. I guess nobody but me bothered to click one :lolbron:
 

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:aicmon: a " homeboy " site, a ****** site is what you want say?? O you mean the same Anthony who dropped the word ****** a bunch of times on the radio after Obama won.



This dude proves my point, these are the conversations they (the HL elite) want to be having in here unchecked.



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Haha since when am I an "HL elite"? The only significant thing I've done is edify a few Fed/Bernanke conspiracy theorists and shared some Muslim piff.

Anyway, perhaps that's what Opie meant by "homeboy," that's not what I meant. It's basically analogous to saying a "trailer park" country music site. It's also not meant to be derogatory, just a general observation.
 
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This isn't really a place for serious discussion. It's never getting better or approaching KTL in its heyday. A lot of the veteran posters don't really post as much anymore, which is understandable because we've all said the same stuff a bunch of times and have grown weary of rehashing the same debates with the same people.

But this place is a joke to be honest. It's had its moments. But there's a thread going on right now where you have posters arguing that AIDS isn't caused by HIV and it was created by gay white people and how come monkeys don't have AIDS. :snoop: That's the level of discourse here. Then you have Slaimon spamming the board up...and Mr. Sometrollgli's usual drivel.

One of the problems is that imbecilic bullshyt like the aforementioned AIDS nonsense is too often viewed at legit "higher learning" to ne debated by too many people instead of being dismissed and laughed out of the room like it would be in any robust intellectual environment. I totally understand why no one comes here and most people probably have a dim view of this place. It needs to made a subforum in TLR again.

Or maybe it's not much different than it was and me and most of the KTL OGs are just older and not as enthused about debate anymore. :yeshrug: That could be it. It's a few youngins here who put in work too...Kool G Trap comes to mind.

Props to everyone who made KTL what it was, those who made the jump and those who didn't. We past our prime now though. :flabbynsick:


honestly, just like the ladies room on sohh, the locker room gets most of the discussions we should have here.
 

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WELL LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN, BROTHER! HOLLYWOOD DOESN'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT, BUT VICTORVONDOOM FEEDS THE TROLLS EVERY DAY, DUDE! I UNDERSTAND HOW TIRING IT IS TO SEE THE SAME FALSEHOODS REPEATED DAY IN AND DAY OUT, AND THAT YOU HAVE A DESIRE FOR YOUNG HIP HOP HEADS TO LEARN, BUT YOU'RE RIDING THAT TRAIN IN A LOT OF THESE DERAILED THREADS, CHAMP! I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT TALKING ABOUT A NEED FOR DECORUM AND THEN CALLING PEOPLE "fukkING fakkitS" IS A PART OF THE REASON WHY PROGRESS IS SLOW, MAN!

THE HULKSTER SEES THESE VANILLA MIDGETS SINCERELY POSTING THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IN THE CONSPIRACY THREAD, AND THAT REALLY DOES DISTURB ME SINCE PAUL HEYMAN IS A PERSONAL FRIEND OF MINE, BUT INSTEAD OF RAGING AT THE POSTER AND GETTING MYSELF ACCUSED OF BEING A ZOG AGENT, I JUST HIT THAT REPORT BUTTON AND ASSUME BARNONE HAS THE COMMON SENSE TO REALIZE WHAT HATEFUL shyt IS BEING OPENLY PEDDLED HERE, BROTHER!

AND I AGREE ABOUT THE AIDS/HIV THING BEING A GENUINELY DANGEROUS IDEA, MEAN GENE! I LOVE THE COLI'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PURE, UNADULTERATED fukkERY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YELLING "AIDS DOESN'T COME FROM HIV" IN A CROWDED THEATER HERE, DUDE!

I'M ALSO TIRED OF ATHEISTS STOOPING TO TROLLING RELIGIOUS POSTERS INSTEAD OF POLITELY ENGAGING THEM IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY, BROTHER! EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE MAY SHOW THAT TAKING YOUR VITAMINS HAS A MEASURABLY GREATER EFFECT THAN SAYING YOUR PRAYERS, BUT ACCUSING PEOPLE OF WORSHIPING PEDOPHILES IS A SUREFIRE WAY TO CANCEL ANY POSSIBLE CONVERSATION, MAN!

THAT SAID, MEAN GENE, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT PODCAST, BROTHER! I LIKE TO LISTEN WHILE I'M AT GOLD'S GYM PUMPING IRON WITH MY CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER AND SLY STALLONE!

:whoa: I feed trolls everyday? No I don't. I don't call people "fukking fakkits." I don't even respond to religious posters rarely ever anymore. I made a couple of jokes about Mr. Sometrollgli a few days ago and I posted a pic of Muhammad in a Slaimon thread the other day, but other than that, I can't remember the last time I "fed trolls."
 

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Both of these things are true and I mean no offense by this. Also HL regulars are why trolls get any traction, but I've explained that too many times.


As for KTL vs. HL, it's the same thing. I know because I used to lurk KTL before I even registered for :hamster:. It had dry periods just like this after an election. It's just that everyone knows each other now. Go back to the first month of HL, I was posting up articles almost everyday, basically making education my niche, no one responded to them. TWISM posts up stuff, and it is read but no one responds to it. The point is, most participation is HL is passive. It gets a lot of views but few responses. Even less now that we have the college and careers sub-forum. KTL was like that too, it's just that posters were more distinguishable.


You also all make far too many assumptions about how mods and admins act.

When the next big thing comes around, people will be in HL again. It goes in cycles.

Like I said, it just could be my perspective changing over time. I remember when I was first lurking on sohh, KTL was dead and full of conspiracy nuts like that Kyoon guy and there was very little substantive conversation. Then it had a bit of a renaissance and there was some really thoughtful discussion infused with the usual sohh fukkery. Around then, a lot of posters were debunking irrational nonsense and it was marginalized in favor of healthy discussion.

But like I said there's a bunch of long time regulars who have went so many rounds with each other and already know everyone else's opinion on all the big issues so it's redundant at this point.

I've been past feeling like debunking bullshyt and prefer reading and engaging in constructive conversations like our podcast ones. But when you come here and see threads like your boy newarkhiphop and kingsmen going on and on about stupid AIDS conspiracy bullshyt and being utterly immune to logic and facts it kinda just drives home the point that this place doesn't live up to its namesake. I don't think there's anything we can do about that unless you start banning people for not being able to present arguments that are predicated on reason and facts which is a rabbit hole we probably don't want to go down because we don't want to start censoring. So it is what it is. :yeshrug:

Regarding banning trolls, I don't have a strong view either way but I don't see why you can't ban trolls from HL just because people respond to them when there's a note under the forum heading that clearly says "no trolling." It would seem to me that you shouldn't mod HL in the same manner that you would say the Coliseum based on that. It's the same 3 or 4 people that always respond to the trolls anyway. All it takes is one troll and one responder to derail a whole thread, so how fair is that to the majority who doesn't troll or respond to trolls? Maybe if most people are telling you they want you to ban trolls it's something you should rethink.
 

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Like I said, it just could be my perspective changing over time. I remember when I was first lurking on sohh, KTL was dead and full of conspiracy nuts like that Kyoon guy and there was very little substantive conversation. Then it had a bit of a renaissance and there was some really thoughtful discussion infused with the usual sohh fukkery. Around then, a lot of posters were debunking irrational nonsense and it was marginalized in favor of healthy discussion.

But like I said there's a bunch of long time regulars who have went so many rounds with each other and already know everyone else's opinion on all the big issues so it's redundant at this point.

I've been past feeling like debunking bullshyt and prefer reading and engaging in constructive conversations like our podcast ones. But when you come here and see threads like your boy newarkhiphop and kingsmen going on and on about stupid AIDS conspiracy bullshyt and being utterly immune to logic and facts it kinda just drives home the point that this place doesn't live up to its namesake. I don't think there's anything we can do about that unless you start banning people for not being able to present arguments that are predicated on reason and facts which is a rabbit hole we probably don't want to go down because we don't want to start censoring. So it is what it is. :yeshrug:

Regarding banning trolls, I don't have a strong view either way but I don't see why you can't ban trolls from HL just because people respond to them when there's a note under the forum heading that clearly says "no trolling." It would seem to me that you shouldn't mod HL in the same manner that you would say the Coliseum based on that. It's the same 3 or 4 people that always respond to the trolls anyway. All it takes is one troll and one responder to derail a whole thread, so how fair is that to the majority who doesn't troll or respond to trolls? Maybe if most people are telling you they want you to ban trolls it's something you should rethink.

As for the bolded, I said that months ago and people were agreeing with me and you all took it personal when I sad we should try to get new people in here. As far as the bolded, I've never read a single kingsmen thread so I didn't even know what you guys were talking about. I don't know dude, maybe that's just an extension of my actual real life personality...which is basically "it's whatever." Like probably a good 70% of the time that I argue anything is on here. When people say off the wall shyt, and they're not one of my boys, I just don't engage them and move on like :manny:

That's why half the time the mods don't even know what you guys are talking about, we've tuned them out. As far as Slaimon goes, he didn't start off this bad, he's gotten worse, and that changes things. I mean, I deleted his last thread (today) like 4 posts in so I doubt any of you guys even knew it. I'll talk to that dude.
 

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i am under the impression that many of the posters in HL lack basic literary understanding, barely even regard the idea of human compassion, and possess limited to non-existent critical thinking skills. :pachaha: it's like some of them have never read a book before.

i don't even waste my time. occasionally there is a mildly eyebrow-raising interesting thread that is worth checking here and there but most of the time it is not even worth a response. and i am not trying to laud myself as mentally superior or some sort of elitist brainiac but we still have a vast overwhelming majority of the people posting on the coli who hate and fear gays, hold onto detrimental and dangerous views on race, have extremely limited or wholly misogynistic views towards women, or simply don't want to try and lift themselves out of the pit of ignorance they have been trapped in by our media or internet discussion boards or youtube comments. the fact that people preach from the mountaintops regarding religious dogma ad nauseum or worship lowly foolish trolls in other subforums on here is sad and pretty pathetic. and i am no humorless stick in the mud either. i love clowning around and having a good time but the lack of productive discussion is something that will stick around unless those unwilling to re-examine their positions on numerous issues through critical thinking get a clue.
 

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:upsetfavre: this dude really talking about debunking shyt and constructive conversations when you got dudes in the other thread floating around the idea of African bushmen having sex with monkeys as the root of a disease going unchecked
 

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:upsetfavre: this dude really talking about debunking shyt and constructive conversations when you got dudes in the other thread floating around the idea of African bushmen having sex with monkeys as the root of a disease going unchecked

Exhibit A. Thank you.
 

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I don't even consider all the positivism (as in the philosophy) all that engaging anyway. Like rationalist debunking of this or that
or another round of atheism vs creationism... :yeshrug: I think some people have interest in that
but talking about science vs conspiracy isn't really the end all of higher knowledge

there's a lot of other social, philosophical, literary, political, historical, moral, ethical, artistic stuff to talk about

I don't know what the good old KTL used to look like but by the time I got on it was like Crusader Central (lol)
so I prefer the current HL to that sort of daily ranting about random sh1t happening in afghanistan

but I think we can talk about more stuff
on the low I think the movies forum on here often has deeper convo sometimes although I don't really read it much
but you know what I mean, there's a lot to think about in life (like analyzing and critiquing movies)
than whatever Neil deGrasse Tyson has to say one morning
 
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