When the People Cheer: How Hip-Hop Failed Black America By Questlove
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
No, it isn't an "Anti Academic Culture".
That's your personal opinion.
Yeah, of course it's my personal opinion
Sooner or later we are going to have to establish what is black culture is(in the present). Or we will continue to talk in circles. If we are tossing it in the bushes and claiming blacks in America to be void of culture(stripped of it), then the role Hip-Hop plays becomes much greater.edit: IMHO
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Superstar
reversing these sort of trends will take time.
I never said it wouldn't, so I'm not sure what you're arguing against 
From where I'm sitting, I think you'd like to turn that towards the posters whose general stance
has them stating that these things only continue to this day because of Hip Hop music,
despite them preceding Hip Hop...by decades.... (or at least several years in some cases)
I mean wasn't Malcolm X hustling dope before Kool Herc ever scratched a record ?
Cool.
Your opinion does not equate to fact.
"My opinion isn't fact...."
"I just present it like it is...."
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
From where I'm sitting, I think you'd like to turn that towards the posters whose general stance
has them stating that these things only continue to this day because of Hip Hop music,
despite them preceding Hip Hop...by decades.... (or at least several years in some cases)
I mean wasn't Malcolm X hustling dope before Kool Herc ever scratched a record ?
Cool.
Your opinion does not equate to fact.
I've never said that my opinion was a fact and I've never said that rap music causes crime, what I said is that rap music has become an amplification device for the anti academic aspects of African American culture and that it slows down or halts progress toward changing the culture to be positive and academic
Suicide King
#OldBlack
If you let another man misguide you, that tells me
You couldn't think for yourself in the first place
The problem always gets muddled though, black people are treated
like special cases who can't differentiate reality from entertainment.
I think the issue here that these guys seem to miss,
is even if Black star dropped an album it wouldn't
change the average lower income black person's state of affairs.
I mean if Lupe fiasco and Kid Cudi were blaring over the radio all the time :
iIt wouldn't stop poor kids from being poor.
It wouldn't suddenly stop the failing of inner city public schools.
It wouldn't suddenly stop police corruption.
it wouldn't suddenly stop the incredible wealth that's generated
from drugs illegally imported into this country.
It wouldn't stop a whole host of other things I could list.
When Michael Jackson and Prince were running the charts we still
had ghetto's, we still had heroin (and then crack) completely decimating
neighborhoods, we still had areas like Harlem, Watts etc.
seen as "Bad Places" among other things.
Dudes can post dumb shyt like "bu bu bu but Real issues!" all they want
but I would imagine fixing these things would take precedent over criticizing rappers
and their content.
So true.
That's why its crazy blaming hip-hop for people being so weak minded that they eventually make dumb decisions.
No group of people made it far without a strong mind and strong will, and from the look of things blacks we will not be the exception to the rule.
Knowledge or education can produce a strong mind, not a Talib Kweli cd.
That's why I feel there should be no more excuses. We've been in a state of ruin way before Lil Boosie picked the mic.
I'd argue that our youth are extremely susceptible to the imagery and trends put forth by hip-hop artist, and that there isnt anything that rivals hip hop in turn of influence over black youths.
I vividly remember when Camron made dudes wearing pink cool to an entire generation...
The scope of his influence from New York to Cali was a marvel to behold.
This is one of countless examples...
what come close?
I agree that it isn't positive. I just think even if it was, it wouldn't change much, just like golden age Hip-hop didn't stop the crack epidemic or lower crime.
Suicide King
#OldBlack
I'd argue that our youth are extremely susceptible to the imagery and trends put forth by hip-hop artist, and that there isnt anything that rivals hip hop in turn of influence over black youths.
I vividly remember when Camron made dudes wearing pink cool to an entire generation...
The scope of his influence from New York to Cali was a marvel to behold.
This is one of countless examples...
what come close?
People are weak minded, whether its selfies in front of moving trains or wearing pink, that's the "effect" not the "cause."
I'd argue that our youth are extremely susceptible to the imagery and trends put forth by hip-hop artist, and that there isnt anything that rivals hip hop in turn of influence over black youths.
I vividly remember when Camron made dudes wearing pink cool to an entire generation...
The scope of his influence from New York to Cali was a marvel to behold.
This is one of countless examples...
what come close?
this is a perfect example, and it's almost mindboggling that people have the nerve to dismiss this as people being "weak-minded"
Suicide King
#OldBlack
this is a perfect example, and it's almost mindboggling that people have the nerve to dismiss this as people being "weak-minded"
Being weak minded is why they wear pink or take selfies in front of moving trains.
Do we blame social network or the idiot with the Samsung Galaxy?
Being weak minded is why they wear pink or take selfies in front of moving trains.
Do we blame social network or the idiot with the Samsung Galaxy?
what percentage of the Black community would you personally consider to be weak-minded?