What's this Black folk were in America before slaves were brought over????
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BmoreGorilla
Veteran
Looking like there was a costume party at my family reunionThe thing I don't get is how you get from
"Yeah Africans set foot here and brought samples of their culture and civilization to others. They were revered etc etc"
To
"Africans were here in significant numbers, enough to be the main source of slaves"
The first statement has some solid evidence behind it. The second is too easy to disprove, unless yall have some proof I don't know ofI'm opened to learn everyday, I don't have any personal attachments to AA being from the Americas, Africa, or even Mars. Just gotta come clean with the proof and the statements
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
Looking like there was a costume party at my family reunion
That's cool as hell. Do you personally retain some of that culture? What tribe are yall from?I don't doubt you got plenty of Native American genes/culture in you. Thing is, for how many AA families is that the case though? How does that picture prove the massive numbers here before slavery? The official narrative also got an explanation for that, liberated slaves who mixed with Native Americans.
Too many inconsistencies imho
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
The so-called Native Americans are Asiatics. Nobody is saying they're the ones who came from Africa. They came from Asia which is why they look like Asians. We're talking about the current black population in the Americas being descended from African explorers who colonized the entire world rather than being descended solely from slaves.The point we're making is that there were black people already here before Columbus and that not all of us are descended from the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Many of us were descended from multiple waves of black people that migrated to the Americas at different times.
That's really what it is. Black pacific islanders. Them is not mainstream natives and i'm not claiming ancestry from these folks nor am I claiming they were African. It's just interesting to me how cacs dictate and distort anything they please. If it was up to them they would have you think all Pacific Islanders look like Korean and Japanese, so you know damn well they would never admit black islanders were native to the Americas. I personally think the Olmecs were black Pacific islanders.
The Black Pacific Islanders were the FIRST WAVE. There were other black people that also came over. After them you had the Ancient Egyptians and Phoenicians that sailed to the Americas. That is how you have pyramids on both sides of the Atlantic. Also you had West African Moors coming over in the last 1,000 years. For example there is the well known story of Mansa Musa's older brother Abu-Bakr abdicating the throne to sail across the sea to a new world with 500 ships. Those ships never came back and we know from stories that Christopher Columbus wrote that when he met the natives that they told him that black men from across the ocean came before him and traded gold tipped spears with them. When Columbus investigated those spears he saw that they were exactly like the ones he had seen in West Africa. Also Columbus knew that West Africans had traveled to the Americas before that is why he hired a Moor from West Africa to serve as his guide when he set sail.
The amount of peoples that came to the Americas before Columbus is a lot more than just the Black Pacific Islanders. It was many waves of black people that came over.
Exactly. And if he was really interested he would read this entire thread that is actually filled with lots of good information that would answer the questions he has about this topic.
But like you said, he really isn't interested in the information. He was clearly being disingenuous.
Wasn't there just a thread about some Ghanaians apologizing for slavery? If this is the case then what was the point of the apology since slavery was a hoax?
Why is it only Africans apologizing for slavery? Why not white countries like the United States? Ask yourself that first.
Did "Africans sell other Africans" or not? Because this would disprove that
Or the World Bank and IMF is strong-arming them to say this so they can continue the myth that Africans sold Africans?
Stop being so naive. There's a reason white countries ain't apologizing for slavery but making black countries do so. You nikkas really need to start thinking past the headlines.
This. I think migration has and will always be a thing. People pack up and move all the time, but it's different than being forced.
MischievousMonkey
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Where is the proof that they stayed? In numbers consequent enough to found another civilization here? That the different waves mixed together? That they abandoned their Egyptian and African cultures to develop those that we call Native American?
If the Natives Columbus met told him that black men from across the ocean came and traded with them (which is true)... Why wouldn't the Natives he met tell him that these people stayed here and created this tribe and now live at that place in numbers? If the traders from Africa actually stayed and the Natives could recall memories of trading with them... Then surely they'd know that they stayed here and where, no?
Curious to see your response to these questions because I never saw them answered.
Pit Bull
GATOR
Another interesting aspect of this conversation is the fact that a lot of African Americans that have their ancestry traced find out that they have small amounts of Polynesian, southeast Asian, and even Melanesian DNA. I read that it's because cacs took slaves from Madagascar during the Atlantic slave trade, but cacs be caccin so you never know. Plus those ancestry DNA tests only go back 500-700 years, not too far before cacs came over here, and the further you go back the percentage of matches decline. But I ain't claiming nothing
just doin math.It's a reason them cacs had Pedro Alonso Nino sailing Columbus' ship over here on the first voyage
Estevanico was traveling over here in the 1500s
Man it was probably all types of black folks over this muthafukka before Columbus, Africans and none African blacks.
Pit Bull
GATOR
And they did the right thing by apologizing because the Atlantic slave trade did happen.Wasn't there just a thread about some Ghanaians apologizing for slavery? If this is the case then what was the point of the apology since slavery was a hoax?