What's the market for Rajon Rondo?

[Draje]

Then there must've been a lot of anomalies taking places because Rondo has repeatedly shown that he can score in regular season games and in playoffs.



Not necessarily. Best PGs in 2007-08:

Jason Kidd, probably. He and Rondo share the similar playing styles, if not identical.

Tony Parker, possibly.

Chauncey Billups, possibly.

Steve Nash, no. He would've been too much of a defensive liability. Mike Bibby, Chauncey Billups, and even Derek Fisher would've had career playoff games against him.

Chris Paul, no. With David West (20ppg/9rpg/1bpg; all-star), Tyson Chandler (12ppg/12ppg/1bpg), Peja Stojakovic (16ppg/4rpg, 44% from 3) and Birdman (defensive specialist), he couldn't get past the 2nd round. Plus, he would take too many touches (dribble-dribble) away from the Big 3 and would've disrupted the chemistry of the Big 3.

Baron Davis, nope.

Deron Williams, nope.

Outside of Kidd, Parker, and (maybe) Billups, I'd say you're wrong. You have to realize that Rondo's main priority during that run was to be a playmaker and play defense. Rondo was the PERFECT fit for that team. People severely underrate the difficulty of Rondo's job to run point for that team.



Rondo is elite, when healthy. His lack of scoring doesn't diminish that fact. He's one of the best--if not the best--playmakers in the game. His defense has been recognized as one of the best at the PG position. He's a walking triple-double threat. And he's led his team deep in the playoffs multiple times.

CP3 is a better scorer no doubt. And he's having a better season than Rondo for sure. But I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that CP3 would've won the championship with the 08 Celtics. How about he make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs first? How about he lead Blake, De'Andre, JJ Reddikk, Jamal Crawford to the finals before we praise him like he's a basketball gawd?

Nash - Easily. Nash doesn't meed to be a great defender with KG behind him and his offensive versatilty means that Pierce, Allen, and KG can eat

CP3 played in the West so shut that shyt all the way up. What you're saying is as stupid as saying George Hill is a better PG because he played in a weaker East and got to the playoffs as the 4th option on his team. CP3 is also ten times the off ball player that Rondo is so he could play off the ball much easier if Pierce or them are cooking. Rondo is useless without the ball in his hand.

Put Rondo on the Clippers and they'd be worse than with CP3.

LMAO at Rondo being a better playmaker than CP3. Rondo is one of the best passers in the league but thats not the same thing as playmaking.

CP3 makes offenses better, Rondo doesn't. Rondo is a better passer than Lebron but he's not a better playmaker because Lebron's presence alone does more for creating opportunities and looks for his teammates.

Like I said, Rondo is good. He's not a player you build around. He played his role well for the Celtics but that's ALL HE DID. Rondo is making the Mavs worse because he's such a non threat when scoring that you can pretty much forget about him. No team is worried about Rondo beating them with his scoring so if he starts knocking down threes, it's a "oh well". It's like if you shut down Lebron and Wade on the Heat but Chalmers sropped 30 on your head. You live with that.

Rondo's triple double potebtial comes with the caveat that you're dealing with one of the worst scorers among perimeter players, a PG who shoots free throws worse than DeAndre Jordan, and the like. A couple of extra reboubds a game isn't worth 9 PPG on godawful shooting. Why don't you ever post his efficient numbers?

10/10/10 isn't an impressive game when you shooting 34%.

I'd much rather have a 27/7/3 game whole shooting 50%.

 

[Draje]

No, I don't.

If you gave me every starting NBA PG at full health/strength, Rondo's in my top 5.

Parker
Paul
Wall
Westbrook
Curry
Conley
Kyrie
Lilliard

And I'd take these playmaking SGs over him too, if we talking full health

Wade
Dragic
Harden
Ellis

Post Rondo's stats from this season (Including efficiency) and let's compare them. Hell, post Rondo's best season.

 

[Draje]

You dudes are clowns this nikka Rondo have a down year now he not shyt

nikka is an all time legend and record holder for the celtics

Multiple All star

Nba champ

Triple double leader

A bum is not doing these things IDC who he plays with,you nikkas buggin

Kobe got an all-star appearance this year, despite being awful. Who cares? Players on good teams get all-star nods.

NBA champ? And Chalmers is too. Who cares?

Triple double leader? Who CARES? That doesn't make him a good offensive player or anything. He gets more triple doubles than Curry, Bron, or KD but his overall offensive impact isn't anywhere near those players.

He still stifles offenses, can't shoot or finish around the rim, he's a historically bad FT shooter among PGs, and he needs the ball in his hands to do anything of value. Rondo isn't any worse, it's just that teams understand what kinda player he is. A great passer and attacker who can't score at all.

Forgive me if I'm not impressed by Rondo's playoff numbers since he "emerged".

Let's look at these godly playoff numbers these nikkas stay bringing up.

14.5 PPG (48% TS) / 9.2 AST (2.8 TOV) / 6 REB

This nikka is scoring 14 PPG on Iverson levels of efficiency in the playoffs and people are trying to act like one good scoring game, here and there, makes him great.

This is CP3's playoff stats. Mind you, he's awful in the playoffs and can't do shyt.

20.6 PPG (57% TS) / 9.7 AST (3 TOV) / 4.8 REB

And these nikkas honestly trying to argue that Rondo does better in the playoffs, despite playing in the East and Rondo having a GOAT shooter, the most versatile PF of all time, and an all time great SF as his teammates.

I want someone to tell me that Rondo is consistently better than CP3 because he averaged a whopping 1.2 more rebound than him.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@FlashGordon22 stop being stupid.

 

[The Maverick]

Then there must've been a lot of anomalies taking places because Rondo has repeatedly shown that he can score in regular season games and in playoffs.




Chris Paul, no. With David West (20ppg/9rpg/1bpg; all-star), Tyson Chandler (12ppg/12ppg/1bpg), Peja Stojakovic (16ppg/4rpg, 44% from 3) and Birdman (defensive specialist), he couldn't get past the 2nd round. Plus, he would take too many touches (dribble-dribble) away from the Big 3 and would've disrupted the chemistry of the Big 3.


CP3 is a better scorer no doubt. And he's having a better season than Rondo for sure. But I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that CP3 would've won the championship with the 08 Celtics. How about he make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs first? How about he lead Blake, De'Andre, JJ Reddikk, Jamal Crawford to the finals before we praise him like he's a basketball gawd?

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Slap yourself, man. CP3 would've gotten at least three rings with that Boston squad. How are you gonna ask what CP3 would do with that team like he's not the best PG of the last decade? Like him and Rondo are or were ever in the same stratosphere. What would Rondo have done with that 2008 Hornets team? 2015 Clips are not in the playoff picture if Rondo was switched for CP3. Dallas goes straight to Western finals at least if that happens.

Just stop.​

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Then there must've been a lot of anomalies taking places because Rondo has repeatedly shown that he can score in regular season games and in playoffs.



Not necessarily. Best PGs in 2007-08:

Jason Kidd, probably. He and Rondo share the similar playing styles, if not identical.

Tony Parker, possibly.

Chauncey Billups, possibly.

Steve Nash, no. He would've been too much of a defensive liability. Mike Bibby, Chauncey Billups, and even Derek Fisher would've had career playoff games against him.

Chris Paul, no. With David West (20ppg/9rpg/1bpg; all-star), Tyson Chandler (12ppg/12ppg/1bpg), Peja Stojakovic (16ppg/4rpg, 44% from 3) and Birdman (defensive specialist), he couldn't get past the 2nd round. Plus, he would take too many touches (dribble-dribble) away from the Big 3 and would've disrupted the chemistry of the Big 3.

Baron Davis, nope.

Deron Williams, nope.

Outside of Kidd, Parker, and (maybe) Billups, I'd say you're wrong. You have to realize that Rondo's main priority during that run was to be a playmaker and play defense. Rondo was the PERFECT fit for that team. People severely underrate the difficulty of Rondo's job to run point for that team.



Rondo is elite, when healthy. His lack of scoring doesn't diminish that fact. He's one of the best--if not the best--playmakers in the game. His defense has been recognized as one of the best at the PG position. He's a walking triple-double threat. And he's led his team deep in the playoffs multiple times.

CP3 is a better scorer no doubt. And he's having a better season than Rondo for sure. But I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that CP3 would've won the championship with the 08 Celtics. How about he make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs first? How about he lead Blake, De'Andre, JJ Reddikk, Jamal Crawford to the finals before we praise him like he's a basketball gawd?

Your dumb ass needs to stop posting. dumbest shyt i heard......

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

He's definitely top 15 if not top 10 PG in the league. He's a great playmaker/distributor type PG like Jason Kidd was but not quite Kidd level. You can have your opinion but most would agree he is.
He is NOT worth nor would I give him no damn max contract like @SuperCoolP_Cal and (I believe) @VMR were saying he was worth, tho.

 

[Chubbs]

Rubio plays better defense, and is a much better passer. He also is quicker with ball decisions.

His game 2 performance shyts on Rubio's entire career.

 

[Liquid]

LOL @SuperCoolP_Cal is losing his damn mind at all the hate his hero is getting.

The reality is that Rajon Rondo is a 5-6 million dollar per year player.

He seems to be breaking down and he still can't shoot, if he had an offensive game that teams were afraid of they would try the hack method to get him to the line, but he is literally no threat on offense like that anymore. He controls the ball too much, tries to call his own plays, and then gets mad when coach checks him. He has always had a bad attitude and got his ego inflated in Boston.

Rondo benefited greatly by playing with 3 hall of famers right after they had peaked, but extremely effective and smart players at the time. The truth is that the Celtics would have won that championship with Rick Brunson, Raymond Felton, or even a post linsanity Jeremy Lin.

 

[William F. Russell]

LOL @SuperCoolP_Cal is losing his damn mind at all the hate his hero is getting.

The reality is that Rajon Rondo is a 5-6 million dollar per year player.

He seems to be breaking down and he still can't shoot, if he had an offensive game that teams were afraid of they would try the hack method to get him to the line, but he is literally no threat on offense like that anymore. He controls the ball too much, tries to call his own plays, and then gets mad when coach checks him. He has always had a bad attitude and got his ego inflated in Boston.

Rondo benefited greatly by playing with 3 hall of famers right after they had peaked, but extremely effective and smart players at the time. The truth is that the Celtics would have won that championship with Rick Brunson, Raymond Felton, or even a post linsanity Jeremy Lin.

You're officially troll status to me.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

=

His game 2 performance shyts on Rubio's entire career.

That game doesn't prove a thing. Rubio is a better defender and passer.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're officially troll status to me.

that everyone is now seeing the light. Rondo stan tears

 

[William F. Russell]

Kobe got an all-star appearance this year, despite being awful. Who cares? Players on good teams get all-star nods.

NBA champ? And Chalmers is too. Who cares?

Triple double leader? Who CARES? That doesn't make him a good offensive player or anything. He gets more triple doubles than Curry, Bron, or KD but his overall offensive impact isn't anywhere near those players.

He still stifles offenses, can't shoot or finish around the rim, he's a historically bad FT shooter among PGs, and he needs the ball in his hands to do anything of value. Rondo isn't any worse, it's just that teams understand what kinda player he is. A great passer and attacker who can't score at all.

Forgive me if I'm not impressed by Rondo's playoff numbers since he "emerged".

Let's look at these godly playoff numbers these nikkas stay bringing up.

14.5 PPG (48% TS) / 9.2 AST (2.8 TOV) / 6 REB

This nikka is scoring 14 PPG on Iverson levels of efficiency in the playoffs and people are trying to act like one good scoring game, here and there, makes him great.

This is CP3's playoff stats. Mind you, he's awful in the playoffs and can't do shyt.

20.6 PPG (57% TS) / 9.7 AST (3 TOV) / 4.8 REB

And these nikkas honestly trying to argue that Rondo does better in the playoffs, despite playing in the East and Rondo having a GOAT shooter, the most versatile PF of all time, and an all time great SF as his teammates.

I want someone to tell me that Rondo is consistently better than CP3 because he averaged a whopping 1.2 more rebound than him.

I'd take a healthy Rondo over a healthy CP3.

Rondo's playoff performances > CP3's playoff performances

CP3 can't even lead a stacked team past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Dude's soft. The Peyton Manning of the NBA. But even Peyton won a ring...



EDIT:
Rondo- 47% career FG
Paul-47.2% career FG

The narrative about CP3 being a better shooter than Rondo needs to stop.

 

[William F. Russell]

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Slap yourself, man. CP3 would've gotten at least three rings with that Boston squad. How are you gonna ask what CP3 would do with that team like he's not the best PG of the last decade? Like him and Rondo are or were ever in the same stratosphere. What would Rondo have done with that 2008 Hornets team? 2015 Clips are not in the playoff picture if Rondo was switched for CP3. Dallas goes straight to Western finals at least if that happens.

Just stop.​

CP3 can't lead his team past the 2nd round of the playoffs. This has been proven on the Hornets and the Clippers. Both were stacked squads.

 

[GoldenGlove]

He's made 3 free throws in 2015 as of today.